Re: Oh come now, this is full of many mistruths, I wonder why I'm even taking the time to reply
anonymous
August 18 2007, 09:13:49 UTC
Hank, The Door's were friends of mine, I worked at the Whisky and The Trip in 1966, the morning that Robbie and John learned of Jim's death they were in the little rehersal space they rented on Santa Monica, I lived around the corner and happened to be walking past the building. John came running out, motioning to me and yelling "Jim's dead" I went inside and Robbie was reading something that was coming through their tele-type machine that was informing them of Jim's death. Bill was not mentioned that morning but I do remember Robbie saying that he needed to find Ray. They were upset and confused and didn't want to believe that Jim was dead. The three of us cried I remember that too. My 2 year old daughter was with me so I left before she became upset. In 1981/2 I was asked by Jim's brother-in-law to visit him in Malibu where Val Kilmer, much to my surprise, waited in a room where I was also asked to wait. It was a set up to see if I thought Val's looks would could pass for Jim's. I agree with what you say and there is nothing more to add: "Suicide was certainly out of the question. Despite the depictions of Jim as a drunkard towards the end in Oliver Stone's movie, he was sober, reflective and very observant with bigger ambitions whenever we were in contact. Yes, we shared some beers, grass and another substance which he had turned me on to, but I never saw the extraordinary out-of-it Jim of legend. The outright speculations of Jim having been shot to death is no more than that. Speculations, from one who wasn't there and has no foundation that can support this.
Yes, I have my own suspicions of what killed Jim, but they are only that, suspicions, despite my good reasons for suspecting what I do.
"antispamnow" should apply himself to either facts or fiction that does not corrupt facts."
Re: Oh come now, this is full of many mistruths, I wonder why I'm even taking the time to replyantispamnowAugust 18 2007, 16:00:22 UTC
Bravo! Another person has his own opinion on Jim’s death (he keeps silence, though) - if he didn’t copy too much from the previous entry, of course. You should learn to have your own opinion, not copy other people’s text. As for the facts, I’ve already explained your friend Hank where they come from, please bother to read it if it’s interesting for you.
Re: Oh come now, this is full of many mistruths, I wonder why I'm even taking the time to replyhanksterzAugust 18 2007, 16:26:39 UTC
Thank you, Vicki :~)
We really should meet someday. Although I had temporarily relocated myself in Vancouver, BC, 2 1/2 years prior to Jim's death, I now live in the mountains outside of Los Angeles. I know we have much in common and could have some rewarding conversations.
I truly appreciate what you have shared here.
Ray, like me, also didn't want to believe Jim was dead, especially with Bill having arrived in Paris after Jim was already in a sealed coffin. Incidently, I can understand how, out of respect, he didn't ask for it to be opened.
Anyway, when Pamela returned to Southern California, it was easy to tell from her grief that Jim was indeed dead. Plus, as Ray had told me by about the time the surviving Doors did the tribute surprise performance at the Whisky on July 3, 1974, fronted by Iggy Pop, it was very telling that Jim had not resurfaced to get some of his accumulating royalties.
I've often missed Jim over these many years, wondering what we all have been robbed of from his untimely death. He truly was extraordinary.
Feel free to email me, hank@zevallos.net. (((Soul Hugs)))
The Door's were friends of mine, I worked at the Whisky and The Trip in 1966, the morning that Robbie and John learned of Jim's death they were in the little rehersal space they rented on Santa Monica, I lived around the corner and happened to be walking past the building. John came running out, motioning to me and yelling "Jim's dead" I went inside and Robbie was reading something that was coming through their tele-type machine that was informing them of Jim's death. Bill was not mentioned that morning but I do remember Robbie saying that he needed to find Ray. They were upset and
confused and didn't want to believe that Jim was dead. The three of us cried I remember that too.
My 2 year old daughter was with me so I left before she became upset.
In 1981/2 I was asked by Jim's brother-in-law to visit him in Malibu where Val Kilmer, much to my surprise, waited in a room where I was also asked to wait. It was a set up to see if I thought Val's looks would could pass for Jim's.
I agree with what you say and there is nothing more to add:
"Suicide was certainly out of the question. Despite the depictions of Jim as a drunkard towards the end in Oliver Stone's movie, he was sober, reflective and very observant with bigger ambitions whenever we were in contact. Yes, we shared some beers, grass and another substance which he had turned me on to, but I never saw the extraordinary out-of-it Jim of legend.
The outright speculations of Jim having been shot to death is no more than that. Speculations, from one who wasn't there and has no foundation that can support this.
Yes, I have my own suspicions of what killed Jim, but they are only that, suspicions, despite my good reasons for suspecting what I do.
"antispamnow" should apply himself to either facts or fiction that does not corrupt facts."
Thanks Hank.........Vicki
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As for the facts, I’ve already explained your friend Hank where they come from, please bother to read it if it’s interesting for you.
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We really should meet someday. Although I had temporarily relocated myself in Vancouver, BC, 2 1/2 years prior to Jim's death, I now live in the mountains outside of Los Angeles. I know we have much in common and could have some rewarding conversations.
I truly appreciate what you have shared here.
Ray, like me, also didn't want to believe Jim was dead, especially with Bill having arrived in Paris after Jim was already in a sealed coffin. Incidently, I can understand how, out of respect, he didn't ask for it to be opened.
Anyway, when Pamela returned to Southern California, it was easy to tell from her grief that Jim was indeed dead. Plus, as Ray had told me by about the time the surviving Doors did the tribute surprise performance at the Whisky on July 3, 1974, fronted by Iggy Pop, it was very telling that Jim had not resurfaced to get some of his accumulating royalties.
I've often missed Jim over these many years, wondering what we all have been robbed of from his untimely death. He truly was extraordinary.
Feel free to email me, hank@zevallos.net. (((Soul Hugs)))
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