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Dec 14, 2004 16:42

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annathema667 December 15 2004, 18:42:07 UTC
actually, you are wrong...

the phrase "strength comes from within ONESELF" which is a line from a song i got the quote from is "vis crescit intus" i had it translated for me BY TWO LATIN EXPERTS. One of Colin's good friends, and my father (who happens to speak 8 languages). Latin is a language where many words are used to "generally" describe a certain meaning, BUT when used with OTHER words, it can take on a whole new persona.

for the PROPER definition of "strength comes from within ONESELF", i wanted a definition that describes a inner power that RISES within a person's soul... RISES is a BIG part of that definition, why? because this "inner strength" is something you SEARCH FOR because you don't NATURALLY always have it. at least according to the song of which i took this excerpt from.

when discussingthis with both Colin and my father, both asked me questions, such as, where is this inner strength, what do you want to do with it...again i wanted a VERY correct and PRECISE definition...

Valium, to me and to the general public who would read that on a t-shirt walking down the street, is a designer drug of which i believe is often OVER PRESCRIBED and too many people are addicted to. yes, some people actually need to take a valium, ONCE in awhile, but i'm talking general society as a whole here, not individual circumstances. i wouldn't put a drug name on a band t-shirt. there are many reasons, and the main one being, i do not want to encourage drug/addicted behaviour or seem like i condone drug use. especailly since, i do not do drugs.

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valley_of_dolls December 17 2004, 16:00:29 UTC

"...the La Roche marketing department christened its new product Valium, a name derived from the word valere, Latin for 'being strong.' ..."

http://www.benzo.org.uk/valium2.htm

if you also get a chance read "'Good Chemistry': the Life and Times of Leo Sternbach the Valium inventor" it explains the whole "strength of mind" deffinition

naturally I wouldn't think that you'd put a drug name on a shirt.....but it would be very controversial and it would make poetic sense to me if TCR (for example) did put "VALIUM" as a logo on their shirts because well Valium was designed to help people (as it continues to do), but it also proved very addictive. And as cheesy as it may sound TCR's lyrics do help me get through the day, and it has also proved quite the addiction. And plus if a band did have it on a shirt it would show who's a true fan and who isn't because an outsider would just look and see ohhhh its a drug, but then someone who knows the band and listens to the music understands its real meaning and can thus appreciate the word and the music in a totally different contexts. Its like an irony that an abusive drug would be representative of a straight-edge inclined band! lol

Total Control of Reality , reality being life, valium being strength to deal with life thus controlling the addiction. I think it totally fits.

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annathema667 December 17 2004, 21:49:20 UTC
First, let's get one thing straight...

I'm not just talking of "strength of mind" but of SOUL and SPIRIT...I'm talking "strength" of heart and spine...you can be the smartest person there is with all the strategies in the world, but if you don't have the spirit or the heart to carry you, it will be for NOUGHT...

this is STRENGTH OF CHARACTER... so yes, going back to my PROPER LATIN TRANSLATION FROM TWO PEOPLE, ONE BEING A LATIN PROFESSOR OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT, your definition is INCORRECT WRONG AND YES, ILL GUIDED.

And for the record, TCR doesn't stand for TOTAL CONTROL OF REALITY, when we intially formed, TCR stood for literally nothing...when people asked us, what TCR stood for, we gave them a DIFFERENT MEANING everytime...Total Control of Reality was mentioned in an interview that just made it further in the passage of fans...Before we even actually told ANYONE that TCR was our project's name, we told people it's name was Trans Contiental Railroad, which was fitting because Robin lived in Detroit, I in LA and we were all traveling all the time.

Valium, yes, I do not deny it's definition, but no...it's not the meaning that I'm looking for, guided by or agree with...IT DOES NOT FIT!!!

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