Oo, Those Wacky Wands!

Aug 08, 2007 17:51

First, thanks to all of those who responded to my poll on possibly problematical aspects of Deathly Hallows. And no, it's not too late to respond - please do so!

In the meantime, here are the findings so far: ( cut for spoilers because after all these months of cowering in terror of vengeful spoiler purists I find I don't have the courage not to )

hp, dh

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tartanboxers August 8 2007, 23:41:55 UTC
Speculative question off the top of my head: What if Harry was wrong about being master of the Elder wand, but he still won because Voldemort was never its master, either?

Marian and I actually talked about this a little bit on our way back home. She brought up the point of all the times the DA practised disarming each other. Does that mean that every member of the DA (or thereabouts) is the master of everyone else's wand? I think we sort of concluded that intent has to play a role. The DA members were just practising and not fighting an actual life-or-death combat. Otherwise it just gets way too complicated and my head wants to explode.

Another thing we wondered: Maybe the whole master thing ONLY applies to the ELder Wand? Although I think something Ollivander said may condradict that.

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angua9 August 8 2007, 23:50:29 UTC
Yeah, Ollivander does contradict that, and it's the reason Harry never got good results with the Tracker's wand Ron gave him, but Draco's wand works great for him, and ditto for various other wands Ron and Hermione use.

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carissa_lynn August 8 2007, 23:51:49 UTC
Another thing we wondered: Maybe the whole master thing ONLY applies to the ELder Wand? Although I think something Ollivander said may condradict that.

It's explained both ways in DH, and it's really confusing. I don't think it applies only to the Elder wand, but maybe that it plays a bigger part in how the Elder wand works than with other wands. At least, that's the way I explained it to myself. At any rate, I think that was one of the weaker parts of the book, because there is nothing in previous books to tie it in. It seems a little like it was added on and there are LOTS of questions.

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angua9 August 9 2007, 00:05:00 UTC
But it's weird, because there was something from previous books to tie it in - the whole thing about the wand choosing the wizard was totally foreshadowing. But I can't remember anything that corroborates or foreshadows the bit about a wand transferring its allegiance. I can only guess that she thought to hint at that at all would give too much away.

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themorningstarr August 9 2007, 00:28:14 UTC
But doesn't Ollivander say something along the lines of it's not really an exact science. That wandlore is all complicated and nuanced and stuff?

Maybe the Elder Wand just liked Harry better. :P

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mrs_bombadil August 9 2007, 00:38:05 UTC
Yeah, it would think "Sheesh that Riddle berk is such a tool." Or, could barely detect him as a viable being with only 1/8th of a soul! a;ldkjf;ksjdfskdlf

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carissa_lynn August 9 2007, 01:52:45 UTC
Yeah, but the wand choosing the wizard is really something different than the wand changing allegiance. I guess it was meant to be foreshadowing, but it doesn't help explain things any.

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angua9 August 9 2007, 03:39:21 UTC
It came across as foreshadowy (IMPORTANT NOTE: THE WAND CHOOSES THE WIZARD!!!), but it didn't seem to give any hint of BUT IT TOTALLY MIGHT CHANGE ITS MIND LATER.

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