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Jul 19, 2009 01:34

You know, I tend to have a huge kink in RPF where the actors roleplay as their characters. But for Trek, that doesn't happen for me, because the actors I 'ship don't coincide with the characters I 'ship, which basically has never happened to me before. I love Sam/Dean; I love Jensen/Jared. I love Nathan/Peter; I love Adrian/Milo. I love Richard/ ( Read more... )

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idleleaves July 19 2009, 10:52:16 UTC

They're very much a "hook-up" pairing for me. Hot as hell, pornolicious, but it doesn't work for me as an actual relationship

Hmm... you know, maybe that's why the roleplay can work in your brain. Because even if you can't process it as an actual relationship, you can process it as a hook-up (or even as a string of hook-ups, if the situation requires more familiarity than first-time sex would have), so on that side it's teh_hot and on the other side, whee, roleplay.

I'm oddly a little bit into Spock/McCoy, which I can't explain, because every reason I come up with can be applied to K/S, and yet I'm not into K/S.... I am so glad you said this, because after the reboot corrupted my childhood (still thankful I can keep the mental images separate, thanks, even if sometimes the characterisation is a little muddied with TOS) that was the first pairing that took up residence in my brain (followed quickly by Kirk/McCoy, god damn it). I've totally crossed the "little bit into" line and headed down the road of YES PLEASE, though. But, yes ( ... )

angstbunny July 19 2009, 23:19:39 UTC

That's why I think the roleplay thing might work for me as Zach/Karl for Spock/McCoy, because I see neither as a 'shippy thing. But weirdly enough, and I don't know if my original post is clear, probably not, since I wrote it at 2 in the morning, but it doesn't quite work in my head as Chris/Karl roleplaying as Kirk/McCoy. It weirdly doesn't. I mean, if somebody wrote it, I'd be more than inclined to read it, far more so than Pinto as K/S, because I'm just THAT not interested in K/S, but yeah. Kirk/McCoy is very much my OTP in the Reboot-verse. I actually don't think I can read them as just hooking up. I've read some stuff where it's basically flat out porn, but there is always this underlying THEY R TRU-ness to the porn. Chris/Karl doesn't have that texture for me ( ... )

idleleaves July 19 2009, 23:33:03 UTC

there is always this underlying THEY R TRU-ness to the porn. Chris/Karl doesn't have that texture for me.

That makes sense to me. I mean, good writing can make me believe a multitude of things outside my own personal brain-canon, but if something clashes too much with how whatever it is resonates in my head, then it clashes. Full stop. It doesn't feel right.

I may be talking shite, honestly, because I'm not much of an RPF-er so I don't know how it would work with the shipping of characters and then the actors who play them and whether or not there would be similiarities. >_> But what you're saying does make sense to me, if I'm understanding it correctly.

And yet it's oddly appealing.It is! I'm at a complete loss to explain it, and honestly, I haven't even read much fic yet so I can't even start to figure it out based on what I like to read. Oi. But you're right--it's all of the same things, and yet it's completely different. Argh? Argh ( ... )

angstbunny July 19 2009, 23:37:43 UTC

But what you're saying does make sense to me, if I'm understanding it correctly.

I'M GLAD IT MAKES SENSE TO ONE OF US. :D

I haven't read much for Spock/McCoy either, and yet I'm SO intrigued and kinda hankering for more, but it takes convincing, but then again, I am a lying liar because there was this one on the kink meme that killed me so dead and it wasn't even remotely antagonistic but THE CUTEST THING EVER, and who'd ever use "cute" to describe Spock/McCoy, and yet. So. Yeah.

Actually, what I'm also kinda into is Kirk/Spock/McCoy OT3. I've read some that really worked, and I like those too.

I WANT THE NEXT FILM LIKE YESTERDAY.

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screamingintune July 19 2009, 11:05:35 UTC

to me, the off the charts slash pairing of Trek XI was definitely Kirk/McCoy.

But then I loved everything about McCoy in that film while I was fairly "eh" on Spock.

aurora_84 July 19 2009, 12:11:15 UTC

Hmmm. I don't think I really have that actors-characters shipping connection. And in the case of STXI my situation is actually reversed: I decided to give a few K/S stories a chance because of 'Pinto'.

Spock/McCoy is actually quite an intriguing pairing (even though ZQ/KU doesn't really work for me.)

angstbunny July 19 2009, 23:22:18 UTC

I did try to give K/S a shot because of Pinto, too, but it just doesn't work for me. :/

Spock/McCoy fascinates me. I'm starting to read more of it, and the more I read, the more I'm kinda hooked. Which makes me feel a little bad, because Kirk/McCoy is my OTP for XI dammit.

aurora_84 July 19 2009, 23:30:18 UTC

I've only read a handful of K/S and almost all of it because it was written by flisters. I can't see myself as a fulltime K/S slasher, though.

The snark and not-really-like-you sex between Spock and McCoy would be amazing.

angstbunny July 19 2009, 23:33:12 UTC

I agree, the snark would be amazing. AND YET. Oh my god. ;_; There was this one I read on the kink meme about McCoy being gifted with a cat and Spock comes to visit all the time, seemingly wanting to visit the cat, but really, he's just using it as a pretext for getting close to McCoy, and that was like THE CUTEST THING EVER AND I DIED.

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bluerosefairy July 19 2009, 13:32:02 UTC

Insert disclaimer here that I'm not in STXI fandom, while I am familiar with it; most of my RPF revolves around British television; etc.

You know, I tend to have a huge kink in RPF where the actors roleplay as their characters.

OH THANK GOD, I'm not the only one. I mean, I knew I wasn't the only one before, because carla_scribbles and I yak about which RPF pairings we think would do this all the time, but she's my braintwin and doesn't quite count. But augh, isn't that one of the hottest things ever? The egregious character bleed? I've seen it done in scenarios like rehearsal turning into sex because the characters are hot for each other and the actors just get carried along (i.e., David Tennant shagging John Simm because the Doctor takes over and really, really wants to shag the Master up against the TARDIS.), but I think an overlooked subgenre is the intentional roleplay. You very rarely see it done, but oh my god, it just pounds a bunch of my kinkbuttons at once.

Shipping the characters don't mean I 'ship the actors, but if I 'ship the actors ( ... )

angstbunny July 19 2009, 23:31:14 UTC

It is seriously the hottest thing ever. The character bleeding, yes yes. I'm fascinated by the intersect between actor/character, so it seems like a natural extension. Mostly I've read it as accidental, too. They're rehearsing, yeah, or talking about their script or whatever, and they're getting into their roles and they get carried away by what their characters want, and NGH. I don't see much of intentional either. I agree that it's overlooked, when it is JUST as hot, but I get why the former is more popular, because most people are into the hooking up, the getting together, the first time. Intentional only happens with an established couple. There's something that's more appealing in the idea of being swept away in the moment.

SPN fandom is just weird and fucked up. A lot of them just don't use earth logic, so I don't even bother, haha.

We don't need to start me on the subset of SPN-dom that preaches RPS because "it's better than incest". Oh god, I know. -_- I mean, I LOVE the joke, that SPN fandom is where the RPS people have ( ... )

bluerosefairy July 20 2009, 04:59:23 UTC

I'm fascinated by the intersect between actor/character, so it seems like a natural extension.

God, yes. It's fascinating either way it turns out - if the character is a little too much like the actor, you get the "what's real/what's fake?" dynamic; if the actor is nothing like the character, you get the hotness of someone totally disappearing into their role. With the former, I feel that it's harder to portray realistically - with an inexperienced author, you'll just get badly-written FPF of whatever character they play, and even for a more experienced author, it can get a little formulaic if you're not careful. With the latter, it's harder to make your audience buy into the sex at all, if he/she is nothing like the character they play, why would they let the character take over? Problematic, but so, SO hot when done right.

Intentional only happens with an established couple. There's something that's more appealing in the idea of being swept away in the moment.I think you're absolutely right. You almost never see first-time, swept- ( ... )