the first episode I saw was Farthingale, what a way to start watching and how
Oh MAN, yeah. That's a fab episode. You know what I LOVED in that ep? I mean, I loved the whole thing, but the moment that really nailed it for me was when Dani was chasing Slattz, and Charlie yells, DON'T MOVE, and Dani immediately freezes. No questions, no hesitation. He yells for her to stop and she instantly stops. I was like DYING. I was like, WOW WOW WOW.
But anyway, Connie, yes. Everyone else around Charlie is introduced via function. Dani is his partner, Davis is his boss, Ted is his financial advisor, Bobby used to be his partner but they still work together. But Connie is just... Connie. She used to be his lawyer, but you never see her lawyering for him. Where everything else on the show feels very flow and organic and natural, Connie feels wedged in. She's a device rather than a character.
Which is a damn shame, because seriously, I LOVE what she is on paper. I actually like the fact that she's a mess and crazy over Charlie and she's totally made of fail when it comes to knowing what to do with Charlie. Just wish that's done better.
I love how Dani was all, yeah, uh-huh. I see what you're doing there, you're not foolin' anyone, missy.
Hahahaha yes. I LOVE the look on her face whenever Connie shows up.
Charlie yells, DON'T MOVE, and Dani immediately freezes. No questions, no hesitation. He yells for her to stop and she instantly stops. I was like DYING. I was like, WOW WOW WOW.
Yes, I love that, that Dani does so without question and you can see how far their partnership has gone, they've entered another level of partnership right there. And it's just.... Dani trusts Charlie. Instinctively, without question. And that's... partnershippery. You know if they don't become a couple its alright with me as long as they're partners forever. They're the One True Partners for me.
I LOVE the look on her face whenever Connie shows up.
Haha. Me too! It's like... its not possessive in a sexual sense but more of possessive in the ... well, he's my partner right now, can we leave all this personal stuff where I work, plz? kthnxbie! She's so territorial with these things, I mean, Bobby comes close and she has this look on her face like: 'You had your shot now his mine.' I dunno, it might just be me:)
But you know I would also love for Dani and Jennifer to meet that would be a ride and a half!
You know if they don't become a couple its alright with me as long as they're partners forever. They're the One True Partners for me.
One True Partners indeed. I definitely agree that it's okay if they never go there. As much as I love Rand for saying that the possibility is open (thank you for not being Chris Carter), I'm fine with it, because their partnership already gives us SO MUCH. It's already filled with squee, with so many moments of FLAIL.
I'm being so descriptive.
She's so territorial with these things, I mean
OMG RITE??? No, I TOTALLY noticed it, too. She's very very territorial, with Connie, with Bobby, very much like THIS IS MINE. It's not sexual, no. Not at this point, who knows down the line, but right now, it's definitely, just... Charlie's HER partner. So everybody else should just fuck off and leave them alone.
Dani and Jennifer, hahahaha, oh lord, that's scary to think about!
their partnership already gives us SO MUCH. It's already filled with squee, with so many moments of FLAIL.
Hee. Don't worry, I completely understand! The partnership has given us so much its fantastic! I thought Booth and Brennan were like the highlight of partnership squee but they're turning a little too well, couple-y than partner-y. I'm a Booth and Brennan shipper but recently they've been pushing it a little too hard. I dunno.
Charlie's HER partner. So everybody else should just fuck off and leave them alone.
Dani is such an Alpha Female, ooh remember the scene where the red head tech was flirting with Charlie and he went pleaaaase and then Dani stares at him. The way his smile fell was HIGHlarious!
Man, I hope the second season have Dani and Jennifer meeting!
I thought Booth and Brennan were like the highlight of partnership squee but they're turning a little too well, couple-y than partner-y.
Yeah? Are you still watching the show? Because I stopped mid-S3. I didn't watch any new episodes that aired post-strike, and I don't plan to. Sad to hear that they're kinda spiraling, because I remember listening to commentary, and was pleasantly surprised by Emily and David remarking on the UST between Booth and Brennan and how it can never be consummated. It'd be the end of the show. And I remember thinking, "YES, they understand, they get it." So if they're getting couply, eesh, unless Hart Hanson is planning to wrap the series soon or something.
Dani is such an Alpha Female
YES. That's exactly what she is. She is totally the Alpha Female. And Crews knows it.
remember the scene where the red head tech was flirting with Charlie and he went pleaaaase and then Dani stares at him. The way his smile fell was HIGHlarious!
SHRIEK YES, I LOL-ed and SQUEAKED and LOL-ed some more. That was made of pure unadulterated awesome. The flirty please, the look from Dani, and the dropped smile from Charlie. Omg, that was LOLOLOLOLOL.
And on that topic, you know what I love? I love the variety that Charlie's lays have been. I remember being SUPER HOPEFUL that Charlie and the redhead tech were gonna get it on, and then THEY DO. Or rather, they seem to have some on-going thing happening, which made me really happy. I can probably spin meta out of this, but I like it purely because it's hot. :D
Yeah, I'm still watching the show but mostly to see if they get back to what they were good at and I'm not actually adverse to seeing them together because I think a show could do that and still be interesting. The thing they seemed to have forgotten is the team dynamics and that Booth may look like a jock Big Man on Campus he really, really isn't. That's his appeal. I hated the London episode it was so OOC.
She is totally the Alpha Female. And Crews knows it.
Yes, that's the important part, Crews knows it!
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
I love the variety that Charlie's lays have been.
Yes, I am too... he's not particular at all which is awesome. You know what I found interesting, Charlie's okay with sleeping with other cops whereas Dani, save for that one detective (which crash and burned like whoa, I think) really separates her work and personal life. She doesn't want to see the guy she's slept with during work hours. Or actually know anything about them.
Ooh. You know me always interested in your thoughts re: this show.
I'm not actually adverse to seeing them together because I think a show could do that and still be interesting.
I'm honestly torn on that idea. I feel like history has shown that a show that functions on UST like Bones simply doesn't survive once the leads get together. (see: Remington Steele, and actually, hey, X-Files) But at the same time, well, yeah, I totally want to see them together, too. Because boy howdy hotness.
It's the Gormangone thing that killed the show for me, though. I don't know how to spell that word, and I don't care. It was mytharc crap, and I HATE mytharc with a furious passion. I don't think any show in the history of EVER has gotten it right.
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out, too. It's really hard to say, considering we have not yet seen what pre-prison Charlie was like. (flashback episode plzplzplz) He's definitely way too flexible and too comfortable with Dani's Alpha to be an Alpha himself. If he was, he'd clash with her a lot. But he isn't a strict follower. He definitely leads, too, when the occasion calls for it. I just think he's flexible, period.
You know, I really do love the idea of Charlie needing structure because of prison. It fits.
You know what I found interesting, Charlie's okay with sleeping with other cops whereas Dani,
Ooh, yeah, you're right. Well, I guess techgirl isn't technically a cop, but I know what you mean. I definitely see Dani adopting the philosophy of don't shit where you eat. Which, actually, is the part of my hurdle in seeing Charlie/Dani as an actual couple. I feel Dani is the one who calls the shots, so Dani is the one who has to cross the line. And she wouldn't.
But at the same time, well, yeah, I totally want to see them together, too. Because boy howdy hotness.
I would love to see a show throw this convention on its head. I would really like to have a TV couple UST then get together and *stay* together and remain interesting.
Its one of the reasons why I love Zoe and Wash's relationship on Firefly because they were an adult couple and still interesting. I also love Marshall and Lily in HIMYM because they're still so goofy and interesting together. The trick is not to focus on their couple-ness too much, I think, that other issues are forgotten, that other cast members are forgotten.
It's the Gormangone thing that killed the show for me, though. I don't know how to spell that word, and I don't care. It was mytharc crap, and I HATE mytharc with a furious passion.
Oh, God, yes. First, Gormagon thing came out of nowhere and second, they had a far more interesting villain in the Gravedigger case than Gormogon. They didn't handle that well at all particularly the resolution which I am still so *bitter* about.
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
You know, I really do love the idea of Charlie needing structure because of prison. It fits.
*nods* Maybe, because he's been in prison for half his life and in that time all he knew was this structure, this set of rules and schedule and I think for the first few months when he was free he was kind of lost and in comes Dani who shows and says that she's the boss but does it in a way that doesn't trigger prison guard for him.
Frankly, I kind of like Dani's leadership skill. She knows when to give and when to take, knows when Charlie should be in the lead and knows when to take it back. For a first time senior officer that's quite an achievement.
I feel Dani is the one who calls the shots, so Dani is the one who has to cross the line. And she wouldn't. Except when she would.
Yes. Between them, if there is someone who *would* cross the line it has to be Dani because Charlie isn't going to push this. He relies on her too much to do that and Dani, if she were a little more screwed up (not out of concept since she has a ton of issues - she's a fascinating functioning trainwreck) and she pushes that button, she might. But I think, like Charlie, she needs the structure too.
As a recovering addict/alcoholic she relies on it. If she has to keep to the rules or who knows how she'll fall off the wagon. Actually, thinking about it, it's also kind of an addict thing to. An addict *needs* to maintain that structure or else they'll get found out. Hmm.. interesting.
Ooh, you know what I like too? I like that sometimes it gives Dani and Charlie pause to realize that their partners are attractive people too! Charlie's moment was on the second episode when the drunk guy calls Dani pretty (and she was secretly flattered and amused!) and there's this shot of Charlie looking at her, as if he just realized: 'Huh. My partner *is* pretty.'
For Dani, its all the times women hit on him and she looks at Charlie as if she's just seen him for the first time too.
Oh MAN, yeah. That's a fab episode. You know what I LOVED in that ep? I mean, I loved the whole thing, but the moment that really nailed it for me was when Dani was chasing Slattz, and Charlie yells, DON'T MOVE, and Dani immediately freezes. No questions, no hesitation. He yells for her to stop and she instantly stops. I was like DYING. I was like, WOW WOW WOW.
But anyway, Connie, yes. Everyone else around Charlie is introduced via function. Dani is his partner, Davis is his boss, Ted is his financial advisor, Bobby used to be his partner but they still work together. But Connie is just... Connie. She used to be his lawyer, but you never see her lawyering for him. Where everything else on the show feels very flow and organic and natural, Connie feels wedged in. She's a device rather than a character.
Which is a damn shame, because seriously, I LOVE what she is on paper. I actually like the fact that she's a mess and crazy over Charlie and she's totally made of fail when it comes to knowing what to do with Charlie. Just wish that's done better.
I love how Dani was all, yeah, uh-huh. I see what you're doing there, you're not foolin' anyone, missy.
Hahahaha yes. I LOVE the look on her face whenever Connie shows up.
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Yes, I love that, that Dani does so without question and you can see how far their partnership has gone, they've entered another level of partnership right there. And it's just.... Dani trusts Charlie. Instinctively, without question. And that's... partnershippery. You know if they don't become a couple its alright with me as long as they're partners forever. They're the One True Partners for me.
I LOVE the look on her face whenever Connie shows up.
Haha. Me too! It's like... its not possessive in a sexual sense but more of possessive in the ... well, he's my partner right now, can we leave all this personal stuff where I work, plz? kthnxbie! She's so territorial with these things, I mean, Bobby comes close and she has this look on her face like: 'You had your shot now his mine.' I dunno, it might just be me:)
But you know I would also love for Dani and Jennifer to meet that would be a ride and a half!
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One True Partners indeed. I definitely agree that it's okay if they never go there. As much as I love Rand for saying that the possibility is open (thank you for not being Chris Carter), I'm fine with it, because their partnership already gives us SO MUCH. It's already filled with squee, with so many moments of FLAIL.
I'm being so descriptive.
She's so territorial with these things, I mean
OMG RITE??? No, I TOTALLY noticed it, too. She's very very territorial, with Connie, with Bobby, very much like THIS IS MINE. It's not sexual, no. Not at this point, who knows down the line, but right now, it's definitely, just... Charlie's HER partner. So everybody else should just fuck off and leave them alone.
Dani and Jennifer, hahahaha, oh lord, that's scary to think about!
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Hee. Don't worry, I completely understand! The partnership has given us so much its fantastic! I thought Booth and Brennan were like the highlight of partnership squee but they're turning a little too well, couple-y than partner-y. I'm a Booth and Brennan shipper but recently they've been pushing it a little too hard. I dunno.
Charlie's HER partner. So everybody else should just fuck off and leave them alone.
Dani is such an Alpha Female, ooh remember the scene where the red head tech was flirting with Charlie and he went pleaaaase and then Dani stares at him. The way his smile fell was HIGHlarious!
Man, I hope the second season have Dani and Jennifer meeting!
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Yeah? Are you still watching the show? Because I stopped mid-S3. I didn't watch any new episodes that aired post-strike, and I don't plan to. Sad to hear that they're kinda spiraling, because I remember listening to commentary, and was pleasantly surprised by Emily and David remarking on the UST between Booth and Brennan and how it can never be consummated. It'd be the end of the show. And I remember thinking, "YES, they understand, they get it." So if they're getting couply, eesh, unless Hart Hanson is planning to wrap the series soon or something.
Dani is such an Alpha Female
YES. That's exactly what she is. She is totally the Alpha Female. And Crews knows it.
remember the scene where the red head tech was flirting with Charlie and he went pleaaaase and then Dani stares at him. The way his smile fell was HIGHlarious!
SHRIEK YES, I LOL-ed and SQUEAKED and LOL-ed some more. That was made of pure unadulterated awesome. The flirty please, the look from Dani, and the dropped smile from Charlie. Omg, that was LOLOLOLOLOL.
And on that topic, you know what I love? I love the variety that Charlie's lays have been. I remember being SUPER HOPEFUL that Charlie and the redhead tech were gonna get it on, and then THEY DO. Or rather, they seem to have some on-going thing happening, which made me really happy. I can probably spin meta out of this, but I like it purely because it's hot. :D
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She is totally the Alpha Female. And Crews knows it.
Yes, that's the important part, Crews knows it!
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
I love the variety that Charlie's lays have been.
Yes, I am too... he's not particular at all which is awesome. You know what I found interesting, Charlie's okay with sleeping with other cops whereas Dani, save for that one detective (which crash and burned like whoa, I think) really separates her work and personal life. She doesn't want to see the guy she's slept with during work hours. Or actually know anything about them.
Ooh. You know me always interested in your thoughts re: this show.
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I'm honestly torn on that idea. I feel like history has shown that a show that functions on UST like Bones simply doesn't survive once the leads get together. (see: Remington Steele, and actually, hey, X-Files) But at the same time, well, yeah, I totally want to see them together, too. Because boy howdy hotness.
It's the Gormangone thing that killed the show for me, though. I don't know how to spell that word, and I don't care. It was mytharc crap, and I HATE mytharc with a furious passion. I don't think any show in the history of EVER has gotten it right.
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out, too. It's really hard to say, considering we have not yet seen what pre-prison Charlie was like. (flashback episode plzplzplz) He's definitely way too flexible and too comfortable with Dani's Alpha to be an Alpha himself. If he was, he'd clash with her a lot. But he isn't a strict follower. He definitely leads, too, when the occasion calls for it. I just think he's flexible, period.
You know, I really do love the idea of Charlie needing structure because of prison. It fits.
You know what I found interesting, Charlie's okay with sleeping with other cops whereas Dani,
Ooh, yeah, you're right. Well, I guess techgirl isn't technically a cop, but I know what you mean. I definitely see Dani adopting the philosophy of don't shit where you eat. Which, actually, is the part of my hurdle in seeing Charlie/Dani as an actual couple. I feel Dani is the one who calls the shots, so Dani is the one who has to cross the line. And she wouldn't.
Except when she would.
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I would love to see a show throw this convention on its head. I would really like to have a TV couple UST then get together and *stay* together and remain interesting.
Its one of the reasons why I love Zoe and Wash's relationship on Firefly because they were an adult couple and still interesting. I also love Marshall and Lily in HIMYM because they're still so goofy and interesting together. The trick is not to focus on their couple-ness too much, I think, that other issues are forgotten, that other cast members are forgotten.
It's the Gormangone thing that killed the show for me, though. I don't know how to spell that word, and I don't care. It was mytharc crap, and I HATE mytharc with a furious passion.
Oh, God, yes. First, Gormagon thing came out of nowhere and second, they had a far more interesting villain in the Gravedigger case than Gormogon. They didn't handle that well at all particularly the resolution which I am still so *bitter* about.
You know I'm having a hard time classifying Charlie though... is he a beta or an alpha? He's too comfortable following Dani's lead and yet... or is it the prison thing that has him comfortable following orders?
You know, I really do love the idea of Charlie needing structure because of prison. It fits.
*nods* Maybe, because he's been in prison for half his life and in that time all he knew was this structure, this set of rules and schedule and I think for the first few months when he was free he was kind of lost and in comes Dani who shows and says that she's the boss but does it in a way that doesn't trigger prison guard for him.
Frankly, I kind of like Dani's leadership skill. She knows when to give and when to take, knows when Charlie should be in the lead and knows when to take it back. For a first time senior officer that's quite an achievement.
I feel Dani is the one who calls the shots, so Dani is the one who has to cross the line. And she wouldn't. Except when she would.
Yes. Between them, if there is someone who *would* cross the line it has to be Dani because Charlie isn't going to push this. He relies on her too much to do that and Dani, if she were a little more screwed up (not out of concept since she has a ton of issues - she's a fascinating functioning trainwreck) and she pushes that button, she might. But I think, like Charlie, she needs the structure too.
As a recovering addict/alcoholic she relies on it. If she has to keep to the rules or who knows how she'll fall off the wagon. Actually, thinking about it, it's also kind of an addict thing to. An addict *needs* to maintain that structure or else they'll get found out. Hmm.. interesting.
Ooh, you know what I like too? I like that sometimes it gives Dani and Charlie pause to realize that their partners are attractive people too! Charlie's moment was on the second episode when the drunk guy calls Dani pretty (and she was secretly flattered and amused!) and there's this shot of Charlie looking at her, as if he just realized: 'Huh. My partner *is* pretty.'
For Dani, its all the times women hit on him and she looks at Charlie as if she's just seen him for the first time too.
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