Catch VD! Got Wood? Compulsion Brings Compassion, Yeah?

Jan 26, 2011 20:40

The purpose of this post is to rant about recent Damon spoilers, so this will be...spoilery. You can read the interview, and awesome comments here: meganbmoore.livejournal.com/1263279.html

Thanks ladygawain!

First I want to talk about those new promotional ads. *Sigh* For the past two days, I've been shaking my head at the CW. The first ad that came out was ( Read more... )

rant, damon, meta, the vampire diaries, spoilers

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Re: SO MANY FEELINGS SO BEAR WITH ME keenan24 January 27 2011, 11:39:26 UTC
They kind of wrote themselves into a corner with the Damon characterization of early season 1 : that guy was devil incarnate, he kills, he rapes, has no remorse or even a tiny glimpse of humanity in him and then he has to be redeemed?
I don't know what happened there but for me the only explanation is the CW executives meddled in the writing process, seeing how popular the show had become. They had to cater to the fans and you know you're doomed when fan-servicing is your m.o.

And i don't like that to make Bonnie more "likeable" they are kind of smothering her strong bitchy side and turning her into a doormat. Season 1 Bonnie would have NEVER let Mason alone with Damon. And never conveniently forgotten about his demise. She would have burned Damon into some crispy fried chicken had she known about Caroline's plight at his hands. I feel like now she wouldn't do anything. For Elena, you know *eye roll of doom*

And using Damon as the star item to promote and "sell" leads to making him appeal to everyone and have everyone groveling at his feet. Funnily enough the killer psycopath has turned into a Vamp!Gary Stu, isn't it ironic?!

Besides, i might be alone in this but I don't think Damon can ever be redeemable to me. Ever.
I love villains, I prefer villains to good guys to be honest but you have to show swagger, a modicum of brains, have a MOTHERFUCKING PLAN and be a goddamn adult.
Damon will forever be a child. if he's redeemed he'll be Stefan 2.0.
And I must admit the rape thing doesn't sit well with me at all, it's too fucking horrible to just let it slide and say "oh but now he understand and he's sorry" ... no he raped them for fuck sake.

And enjoys having power over weaker people. If I'm a villain I want strong people to fear the hell out of me, to show that, yes, I RULE. But no, strong people pawn Damon all the damn time. I'd rather have Elijah as the twisted grey character than Damon sulking in the corner over his man pain. ugh...

I came to only watch for the fringe characterS and when Stefan interacts with them. I don't like Stefan when he is with Elena because he kind of has a tunnel vision and is always in protector mode.
With the others (mainly Bonnie and Caroline) he's more on an equal footing and gives you glimpses of his personality (bamf, funny guy,disbelief) that you can' see with Damon and Elena since he's always babysitting them.

Anyway loooooong winded rant.

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Re: SO MANY FEELINGS SO BEAR WITH ME angryzen January 28 2011, 02:34:01 UTC
I love your long-winded rant!

And using Damon as the star item to promote and "sell" leads to making him appeal to everyone and have everyone groveling at his feet. Funnily enough the killer psycopath has turned into a Vamp!Gary Stu, isn't it ironic?!

It seems like producers, or should I say networks, love making this mistake. They take this bad boy that really was a bad boy and loved by the fans, and they turn him into a complete emo-woobie. As it stands, Damon is only a bad boy in name. And because he wears black, I'm guessing. What the hell is this sitting in a bathtub, pontificating about his feelings thing? Not saying bad boys don't have feelings, but there's a way to express them. If they weren't so focused on destroying his relationship with
Stefan for this triangle, maybe he could talk to him.

I love villains, I prefer villains to good guys to be honest but you have to show swagger, a modicum of brains, have a MOTHERFUCKING PLAN and be a goddamn adult.

Yes! And Damon was all of this in (early) season 1. His orchestration of Lexi's murder, infiltrating the council; all of this was great. The Lexi thing made me hate him for the first time, but at the same time I was thinking of what a great character he is. Then the producers made him have a turn-around in the last couple of episodes (tears in the finale), and now it feels like they're backtracking by saying, "Oh no no, he still has a long way to go." Not before he changes or anything, but before he can be worthy of Elena. Uggghhh.

I don't like Stefan when he is with Elena because he kind of has a tunnel vision and is always in protector mode.

Yes. I'm finding that this season, when there's a crisis going on that is all about Elena (of course), Stefan is hard to take. What the heck was that with asking Bonnie to bring down he seal so he could have a convo with Katherine? In those moments, I think Stefan is losing his appeal, but then he gets a scene with Caroline (because he and Bonnie don't talk if it doesn't involve Elena), or he runs in the tomb to save Jeremy, and I remember why I love him.

What is happening to Alaric? He's on his way to officially becoming Damon's bitch. I was already scratching my head at why he would even want to help Damon drug Jules considering she was just looking to see what happened to her friend.

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Re: SO MANY FEELINGS SO BEAR WITH ME meganbmoore January 28 2011, 04:24:13 UTC
Thank you so very, very much for pointing out how Damon enjoys having power over other people. This is, I think, where the possibility for redemption loses me even without the rapes. He's extremely violent, but most of his violence is deliberately directed to people who are physically (but usually not mentally or emotionally) weaker than him. This is usually evidenced with women, but he also delights when he can show his physical/"sexual" superiority to men (see: his taunting Alaric about Isabel) and there's sometimes a sadistic bent to his actions (pretending he's going to kill Liz while Caroline is begging him not to, the way he drug out the confrontation with Bree, Alaric again, drawing out Jeremy's murder with, again, Elena begging him not to, because the longer he draws it out, the longer he has power over someone). A lot of fans seem to forget that he seemed pretty happy when Katherine was training him to kill people as a vampire. He wanted the power and was willingly drinking her blood so that he could become one. When they became vampires, his wanting to die wasn't that he didn't want to be a vampire, it was that his obsession with Katherine was amplified by the change, resulting in a suicidal depression.

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