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angevin2

an idea whose time has come

Jan 29, 2008 22:03

So in the comments to my last public post, cataptromancer suggested a Kzoo panel called "1399 Slapdown," devoted to gratuitously combative discussions about which of Richard II or Henry IV was in the right ( Read more... )

academic wank

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dramaturgca January 30 2008, 04:13:02 UTC

I've seen a subtle cutting vs. not cutting Shakespeare for performance bitchfight at a conference...

angevin2 January 30 2008, 05:58:16 UTC

Ooooh, that's a good one. Also for performance studies: "Original-Practices" Shakespeare: A Good Thing, Or The Devil?

a_t_rain January 30 2008, 12:52:23 UTC

I've been in that slapfight! Sorta. Actually, it was more of a Why Anything That Popularizes Shakespeare Is Bad, Bad, Bad rant on the part of the conference presenter, who provided no evidence whatsoever to justify his conclusions, but it was nominally an original practices rant.

lauzeta January 30 2008, 04:29:51 UTC

I'd love to see an Ovid vs. Vergil slapfight. (Not least because Vergil [and specifically the Aeneid] is one of my pet peeves...)

angevin2 January 30 2008, 06:00:16 UTC

Aw, I like Vergil. (Actually, "do we spell it 'Virgil' or 'Vergil' is a surprisingly slapfighty topic in some quarters.)

But then, I also like Ovid.

But I really like Catullus!

imbrium8 January 30 2008, 04:37:05 UTC

I will toss the obvious medieval slapfight subject in for consideration: the dating of Beowulf.

angevin2 January 30 2008, 05:59:06 UTC

Oh yeah. Like, do you take him to a movie, or what -- oh, right, that kind of dating.

Yeah. ;)

imbrium8 January 30 2008, 14:36:41 UTC

Hehe. I knew that joke was coming, from someone. But I couldn't resist!

ETA for subject line: The Texts of Shakespeare (just making the already-existing slapfights REAL!) skirmish_of_wit January 30 2008, 05:18:57 UTC

"Lear: Tragedy or History? A Naked Mudfight on the Heath (Wildflowers Optional)"

I mean, the only problem is that naked academics would be a horrible, terrifying, scarring event. Unless, of course, we only accepted the hottest ones on the panel. At last, a use for the ratemyprofessors.com chili peppers!

icon buddies! angevin2 January 30 2008, 05:57:22 UTC

Clearly there should be enough mud that nobody can actually see anything. ;)

Re: icon buddies! skirmish_of_wit January 30 2008, 06:02:55 UTC

Good god, I would hope so. Unaccommodated academics may be just such poor, bare, forked animals as I am, but that doesn't mean anybody wants the ocular proof.

*Byzantinist hat: ON!* byzantienne January 30 2008, 06:07:56 UTC

Paleologian renaissance vs. Paleologian decline. One, two, three, fight!

Re: *Byzantinist hat: ON!* angevin2 January 30 2008, 08:39:29 UTC

...I'm not even sure what that means. ;)

Re: *Byzantinist hat: ON!* byzantienne January 30 2008, 13:29:31 UTC

*giggles* Last Byzantine dynasty. Cultural explosion! Humanism! Really amazingly weird theology! Tons of poetry on the theme of 'We're All Screwed, and the Ancients Did It Better'!

Half of Byzantinists: If those nasty Turks hadn't arrived just then, Byzantium would have been right up there with Italy in that whole renaissance thang!

Other half of Byzantinists: You idjits, they're totally derivative and debauched and in the grip of a failing military aristocracy, shut up with your wishful thinking!

Like so.