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enigmaticblues March 15 2012, 00:51:44 UTC
And where's an Ancient Greek to put the little lady's womb back where it belongs?

LMHO! Also, double bonus points for the classical use of the word "hysteria".

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angearia March 15 2012, 00:59:33 UTC
This whole storyline is making my womb feel loosey goosey, let me tell ya. My lady parts have been all over the map because of hysterical FEELS. :P

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norwie2010 March 15 2012, 01:04:35 UTC
because of hysterical FEELS.

Beware! Hysteria leads to spacefrakking drunken blackout sex body stealing...

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angearia March 15 2012, 01:09:06 UTC
Yeaaaaah, and here I thought we were moving away from the Season 8 fuckery that gave me EMMIESMASH feelings.

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goldenusagi March 15 2012, 01:05:13 UTC
HYSTERIA, yes.

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angearia March 15 2012, 01:09:15 UTC
Riiight.

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shipperx March 15 2012, 01:13:00 UTC
Excellent snark.

At this point, it's hard to know whether she was pregnant of not (though, it will be a major cop-out if they raised the pregnancy only to do a "psyche!") I guess it depends on when she was (as Rahirah called it) 'decanted'.

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angearia March 15 2012, 01:16:40 UTC
Ta. Snark lives on in me.

I think she's still pregnant because if she is, there's way more opportunity to be TERRIBLE about it. And it's just too terrible in a way I can see Whedon going for. I.e., saying this story is about the nightmare of a woman unable to control her own body and have an abortion when she wants.

If anything, I feel like he wouldn't want to side-step the abortion issue? Or not to go "psyche!" but to essentially cheat having to actually go through with the abortion. It's Darla 2.0, it's Dollhouse.

Andrew = Topher, only this time it's for Buffy's own good because she can't be trusted to control her own body.

Remember back in Issue 1 when Andrew was the big hero leading the Slayers to do good works? Yeah.

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shipperx March 15 2012, 02:29:39 UTC
I think she's still pregnant because if she is, there's way more opportunity to be TERRIBLE about it.

Hah! Can't argue with that.

Andrew = Topher

Absolutely!

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prophecygirrl March 15 2012, 01:26:42 UTC
Oh, hell.

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angearia March 15 2012, 01:28:16 UTC
pretty much

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boot_the_grime March 15 2012, 01:31:16 UTC
I have no idea where this is going. But after the glow and blackout pregnancy, it would be something new and surprising if she did NOT lose control over her body for a change.

I would have much preferred if she did really lose a limb in battle. (There has been some great fanfiction dealing with this after the cover for #8 was released.) But that would be too realistic, and it's probably considered less acceptable to realistically maim your FEMALE hero than to have her possessed or have her consciousness transferred into a robot (?) or whatever.

It makes me laugh that the premise of season 9 was supposed to be 'back to the basics' and Buffy being relatable again, because people couldn't relate to the problems of leading an army or having spacesex with your super-powered ex-boyfriend and giving birth to a universe. I'm sure we all remember that time when we had our arm ripped off, saw the wires and metal and realized we were a robot.

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angearia March 15 2012, 01:35:22 UTC
It makes me laugh that the premise of season 9 was supposed to be 'back to the basics' and Buffy being relatable again

Now that's the real PSYCHE! They so fucking got us with that one.

OMG NOOOO I love that Marina song and I've imagined many Buffy fanvids in my head set to it. Forever ruined now that it's become so grossly literal.

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stormwreath March 15 2012, 17:25:03 UTC
I'm sure we all remember that time when we had our arm ripped off, saw the wires and metal and realized we were a robot.

Maybe not, but have you ever got the feeling other people were treating you AS IF you were a robot? Ever had the sudden awful realisation that in their eyes, you might as well be a machine?

That's what I think they were going for here.

(I mean, few people have had their boyfriend turn into a soulless mass-murderer after sleeping with him, but does that mean Season 2 wasn't grounded and relatable?)

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boot_the_grime March 15 2012, 18:12:09 UTC
Good point. And actually, after thinking a while about the twist, I am starting to see how it could work, emotionally, with existential angst and identity crisis. Particularly with what looks like Vertigo references on the covers of 9.09. and 9.10. - the movie in which a woman is trying to fulfill the role of another, dead/lost woman, even though they were actually one and the same all along. Also, I did relate to the Cylons from Battlestar Galactica (a show that Joss has seen and loved since BtVS ended, and which might have influenced Dollhouse) and I appreciated the identity crisis and angst of sleeper Cylons - Who am I? Am I real? and the issues like, what makes us human? What makes us who we are? One of my favorite moments in one of the most heart-breaking BSG episodes, Resistance was this dialogue:
"You're a machine. I'm not."
"Well, whatever I am, I know what I felt".

The Marina and the Diamonds song might end up feeling like the theme song, in a non-ironic way...

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