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bart_calendar September 27 2016, 11:09:46 UTC
A factor in the wage gap that that article doesn't address is that one way people get into management positions is by applying for jobs at other companies and in that way moving from worker to manager ( ... )

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naath September 27 2016, 11:58:12 UTC
Also, women intending to have babies want to qualify for maternity benefits, which you often get (to the fullest extent) only after working in a place for a number of years.

Personally I think the solution here is to get more men to do more of the work of child-rearing, including taking paternity leave, so that the expectation of "will have baby and be away for 6 months and then part time" falls equally on men and women.

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bart_calendar September 27 2016, 12:02:17 UTC
Yes. But good luck with that.

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andrewducker September 27 2016, 12:10:00 UTC
It's changing slowly. The UK brought in shared parental leave, and I know people (at my work) who have used it

(Plus Norway and Sweden have it mandated, of course.)

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danieldwilliam September 27 2016, 14:19:03 UTC
I think Thornberry will not continue as both Shadow Foreign Secretary and Shadow Brexit Secretary. I think the Speaker is very concerned that Labour aren't able to fill all the Shadow Cabinet roles and has been giving them a bit of slack during the extraordinary leadership election but now that the election is over he will require Corbyn to fill all the front bench posts on a one MP per post full time basis and I think he has some significant powers of sanction both moral and practical to make sure that he does.

(Now I think of it I wonder if it is a way for the PLP to continue hostilities with Corbyn if they wanted to. They can't make him resign as Leader of the Labour Party but they potentially could force him in to a positon where he can't fulful the duties of Leader of the Opposition.)

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gonzo21 September 27 2016, 15:51:35 UTC
The counter stroke to the PLP continuing their war would be for Corbyn to inform the speaker that Labour were no longer the official opposition. Which is in the rules.

This would then default to the next largest party forming Her Majesty's official opposition. Which would be, drum roll, the SNP.

And I cannot imagine the PLP allowing the SNP to take to the front benches and become the shadow-everythings.

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danieldwilliam September 27 2016, 16:39:52 UTC
That is exactly the situation I was suggesting that the PLP could place Corbyn in. Should they wish I think a refusal en masse by the PLP to serve on the front bench so that Corbyn is unable to fulfil the role of Leader of the Opposition would see the SNP made official oppostion. I think Corbyn has more to lose than the PLP in a situation where the PLP think that a) they are going to be de-selected or b) lose their seat in 2020 anyway.

I don't think it would be a good position for them but it's a halfway house to splitting should Corbyn get worse at the job the PLP think he should be doing or should Corbyn not keep to his side of any settlement.

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kalimac September 27 2016, 14:00:06 UTC
The video clip interview with Corbyn previously referred to features him saying that Brexit is extremely consequential. Maybe other things he's saidor done give a different impression, but I doubt you'll reach him by telling him that's what he really thinks.

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octopoid_horror September 27 2016, 17:04:23 UTC
I suspect that " an audible nuisance" will be defined by residents who bought nice expensive new properties next to pre-existing venues as "audible at all after about 8pm", so it'll be interesting to see how the authorities view those complaints

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andrewducker September 29 2016, 21:42:57 UTC
Sadly, I suspect you're correct.

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momentsmusicaux September 27 2016, 21:31:47 UTC
I'm pretty much with Lionel Shriver on the cultural appropriation thing.

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