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kalimac May 20 2016, 14:06:02 UTC
I chuckled particularly at the list of English folk song themes, because I know every one of those songs. Between Steeleye Span and Martin Carthy, they've done all of them.

Soil may seem an odd metaphor for sex, but I've seen that one too. In one of John Steinbeck's very early, symbolist novels, a farmer literally has sex with the earth. For no apparent reason, he throws himself down on the ground and his body heaves with growing intensity, then he lies still. It was the weirdest f'ing thing I've ever read, and I don't mean that word just as an intensifying expletive, though that too.

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andrewducker May 20 2016, 14:19:31 UTC
Yeah, that's odd. But as metaphor I can see it working well. I hope he didn't get it pregnant.

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kalimac May 20 2016, 16:01:57 UTC
Surely he did. That's what farmers all want, isn't it - the fertility of the land? This one just did it metaphorically.

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steepholm May 20 2016, 18:41:18 UTC
I heard Spenser being quoted to this effect on the radio just today:

The day with clouds was sudden overcast,
And angry Jove an hideous storm of rain
Did pour into his leman's lap so fast,
That every wight to shroud it did constrain...

Of course, Jove is an expert on golden showers.

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awesomelies May 20 2016, 16:30:19 UTC
Any pointers on the “Lord Nelson Sure Was Awesome” ones? I don’t think I’ve come across any so was idly wonder why General Wolfe and even Napoleon seemed to have caught the public imagination more…

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ylla May 20 2016, 16:43:37 UTC
There's a chapter on them in a book called Trafalgar in History: A Battle and its Afterlife, edited by David Cannadine.
I don't own a copy, though, so can't give you names - it was only lent to me by the secretary of the Collingwood Society who was trying to educate me :)

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awesomelies May 20 2016, 16:52:51 UTC
Aha! Thanks *wanders off to buy a copy*

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ylla May 20 2016, 16:57:37 UTC
Ooh, at used prices I'm quite tempted to buy my own - I was dubious about reading an academic sort of book for fun, but actually really enjoyed it.

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