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[andrewducker]

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• Before You Get Too Excited About That GitHub Study On Sexism In Technology
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• What if we changed "pandering to [group]" to "being enjoyable for people who are not me."
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• Write code that is easy to delete, not easy to extend
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Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[cartesiandaemon]

Did they control for "it's easier to get high-paying jobs if you have a partner who has a job with less responsibilities and does all the work at home, which is disproportionately often women not men in het relationships?"

Re: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[andrewducker]

Personally, I was taking that as the conclusion...

RE: Re: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[cartesiandaemon]

Yeah, I think they did cover that in the last paragraph, I skimmed it the first time and thought that was talking about something slightly different. And I'm certainly not sure, it's the sort of thing that could have a lot of overlapping causes. But this jumped out at me as the "obvious" one, since its an effect I already think exists, and they didn't seem to privilege it over other ideas like "lesbians feel they need to work harder".

RE: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[steer]

"it's easier to get high-paying jobs if you have a partner who has a job with less responsibilities

Wouldn't that kind of naturally be its own control? I mean if one partner gets a low status job and the other gets a high status job on average they get an average status job.

I'm not sure why you think that statement would apply to lesbians and not to (say) gay men though who suffer a penalty compared with straight men. In lesbian couples tend to be more equal in the hours they work than het couples (so there's no evidence that lesbian couples split into "X stays home, Y has high powered job") and also that they tend to work longer hours than het couples.

The report is a meta study so it does not itself bring in controls but relies on the controls of the other studies -- you can read it here.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/irel.12075/abstract

RE: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[cartesiandaemon]

I'm not sure why you think that statement would apply to lesbians and not to (say) gay men though who suffer a penalty compared with straight men.

I thought about this for about 5 seconds before posting, so I don't particularly expect I *did* get it right, but I don't quite understand your objection. Assume lesbians and gay men split chores equally, and for straight couples, men do less and women do more (on average). Then, men get the most high-paying jobs, followed by gay people, followed by straight women. So being gay is "helpful" for women and "bad" for men in terms of salary. Isn't that what it said it showed?

Re: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[steer]

Ah... I understand your claim now. Yes, your explanation makes sense as a possible causative mechanism I just had not understood it properly.

RE: Re: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[cartesiandaemon]

Ah, thanks. Glad it makes sense. Maybe I *wrote* it a bit too quickly.

Re: Re: Lesbians earn more than straight women. Married straigh

[steer]

Or maybe I read it too quickly or perhaps a little from both columns. :-)