Dietary and stomach update

Jan 12, 2016 21:31

So, I've been doing the FODMAPs diet for IBS for about 16 months now. (Good explanation here from a friend of mine who was recently put on it by his doctor ( Read more... )

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danieldwilliam January 12 2016, 23:07:26 UTC

I'd miss dairy and gluten and sugar.

A lot.

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andrewducker January 12 2016, 23:38:38 UTC
I sincerely wouldn't wish this on anyone.

And I am still _incredibly_ happy that it's not celiac.

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druidsass January 12 2016, 23:45:25 UTC
Glad it's working for you! What does and doesn't work with my IBS only seems to correlate quite weakly with FODMAPs (not that the variation in triggers is at all surprising in a condition that has three distinct types and probably doesn't have a single cause; I have IBS-A associated with ME/CFS). Caffeine, salmon and meat are my worst triggers, pulses and yogurt are actually helpful, all fruits are completely fine, but dark green leafy veg can be a problem, especially dark lettuce. When I was first diagnosed, I had problems with onions and cabbage, but also with capsicums; I was able to reintroduce all of those once I'd given my insides a bit of a break, though. Anything triggery is more tolerable if I first chop it into tiny pieces and then fry it to death. Non-sourdough wheat products can definitely be a bit problematic, and I'm still trying to figure out whether A1 vs A2 dairy makes a difference, having only recently learned that that's a thing. While I was on citalopram I was actually able to eat pretty much anything except meat, ( ... )

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andrewducker January 13 2016, 08:49:49 UTC
Yeah, giving my insides a break really does help.

I forgot apples - I can't eat apples without my stomach swelling :-(

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sashajwolf January 13 2016, 15:16:56 UTC
Apples are kind of weird for me. Most of the time they're fine, and if I'm having a diarrhea-type episode they sometimes even stop it, but if I eat them on an empty stomach they make me feel nauseous. It feels like low blood-sugar nausea, as if my body's expecting food and not getting it - so I suspect that they're fine as a bulking agent, but I'm not actually digesting them efficiently enough to get much nutrition from them.

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channelpenguin January 13 2016, 09:28:50 UTC

Your stomach does work correctly - for you. Think of it that way. I've got huge sympathy though.

My skin and joints hate a variety of things, never been systematic but ... apples, whole grain bread, any bread/tomato/cheese combo, lentils, chickpeas (kidney beans oddly fine), oats (German ones tolerated but not too often), pasta/noodles, sugar, any kind of alcohol. Rice is OK but it's high risk of sending me on sugar binges. Jury is out on potatoes...  I really don't miss sandwiches, and happily can manage occasional flatbreads so I still get my kebab dose! I love veggies, happily, and

I've been long used to having to think ahead and take food with me if I know there are no good options to be had where I am going. The lack of spontaneity sucks, but then so does gut/back/hip pain...

I found the longer I stick to what doesn't upset me, then it's OK to have the occasional lapse. But initially I had to be super strict for 4-6 months (twice, cos I'm an idiot).

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andrewducker January 13 2016, 09:47:16 UTC
The thing is, my stomach used to be fine with all of this, and from my understanding of current theories a lot of these problems are down to microbiome imbalances.

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channelpenguin January 13 2016, 12:00:46 UTC

We change with age, annoying but true. Also with injuries - and we cannot always get back to a previous state. Though laying off what irritates the injury (in the gut) for long enough for healing to take place is very helpful. For instance, we have to continually use our muscles and stress our bones and stretch and let our hearts get going fast for a while on a regular basis to keep in best condition, but even so there's no guarantee of maintaining current performance never mind regaining past. And no matter what you do, some things, like age-related lens hardening that leads to long sight, cannot be exercised away or reversed.

The bacterial connection is interesting, but I'd be cautious about expecting a "cure".

We age, we change, a lot of these changes suck, only some can be fought. Entropy wins in the end. I've found it not very useful to be grumpy about it (though I have had my moments!)

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andrewducker January 13 2016, 21:51:29 UTC
Oh yes, I don't mind being a bit more sensitive to things, and the standard aging stuff (well, I do, but so it goes). But IBS is a massive pain, and if there was a cure then I would be taking it instantly.

(Do a search for "IBS microbiome" to see the research currently going into this)

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octopoid_horror January 13 2016, 21:05:06 UTC
You can make doughnuts, avoiding anything you wouldn't want in them, in theory.

But that's probably more effort than strictly necessary.

I'll have your portion though - just leave a note at 12 Triangles after you pay, saying they're for me, alright?

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andrewducker January 13 2016, 21:42:52 UTC
I shall make a doughnut donation to the poor and needy in your name.

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