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bart_calendar May 11 2015, 11:59:20 UTC
So you already don't use the Euro and now the country wants to violate EU immigration law. In what real sense is the UK a part of Europe. I'm surprised it's not the EU trying to kick the UK out rather than the other way around.

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andrewducker May 11 2015, 12:23:19 UTC
I can totally understand not being in the Euro - we'd have been completely fucked in 2008 if we hadn't devalued the currency by 40% against the Euro (and more than that against the dollar).

It's also the main cause of Greece's woes - if it had been able to devalue then they'd be in a much better posotion now.

Free movement, on the other hand, is a cornerstone of European values. I absolutely can't see them backtracking on that.

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danieldwilliam May 11 2015, 13:36:11 UTC
I don't see the rest of the EU being much inclined to renegotiate, especially on such core areas as free movement.

I'm not sure how David Cameron sells basically being told to eff off as a successful renegotiation, especially in the face of Tories who want an EU referendum regardless of any success renegotiating.

So, it looks like an EU referendum - which the Tory party will enjoy much, much less than any other party.

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missedith01 May 11 2015, 19:20:40 UTC
I hate this being cast by the right as an immigration issue. The Treaty of Rome sought to guarantee four freedoms, the movement of goods, capital, services and people. To take away one of those is to hack away at one table leg and desire that the table remains standing. They want workers to stay put and be unable to move to improve their economic status, while business benefits from the freedom of movement of everything else.

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danieldwilliam May 12 2015, 13:09:37 UTC
Yes, the right to free movement is foundational.

Any worker's right to leave a rubbish job, with rubbish pay, a rubbish employer in a rubbish town and to move to a better job, with better pay and a better boss in a better place is every worker's right to do so.

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andrewducker May 11 2015, 12:23:53 UTC
Also, we can't afford to end European migration. We'd lose a load of cheap workers and get back a bunch of retired people!

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