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What's expected of us (a neat short story on determinism) cartesiandaemon January 17 2014, 12:54:27 UTC
Oh wow, I didn't know Chiang had written anything new. His short stories are amazing.

Partly I'm annoyed that people are still arguing about free-will vs determinism. I feel like we know the answer, even if we disagree about whether to call that "free-will" or not.

But admittedly, that's easy if we don't have any *way* of knowing the future. We still don't know what it would be like knowing something we might do is predestined and trying to wrestle with it ( ... )

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simont January 17 2014, 13:20:48 UTC
The Predictor story: I remember seeing that some years ago, because I recognised the allusion to it in Ken Macleod's The Night Sessions. However, I'd assumed it was written by Macleod and he was referring to his own previous work, so I'm now startled to find it's by someone else!

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Re: What's expected of us (a neat short story on determinism) andrewducker January 17 2014, 13:28:52 UTC
The story is from 2005...

And if you like Chiang then you should really read some Greg Egan.

I particularly recommend the short story collection "Axiomatic" and the novel Permutation City.

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Re: What's expected of us (a neat short story on determinism) cartesiandaemon January 17 2014, 13:44:40 UTC
Huh. Apparently it just didn't get into his large collection.

And yes, I've read all the Greg Egan I can find. I don't *always* agree with him, but it seems he's almost the only person writing what I could comfortably call "hard science fiction". And once, "hard mathematics", which I hadn't thought would exist :)

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Re: What's expected of us (a neat short story on determinism) apostle_of_eris January 19 2014, 14:27:17 UTC
Asimov's original "thiotimoline" was in 1948.

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Re: What's expected of us (a neat short story on determinism) andrewducker January 19 2014, 14:32:22 UTC
Oooh. I don't think I've read that in over a decade! Excellent short story, and I loved his introduction to it (or possibly postscript) where he talked about it coming up on his viva.

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