Interesting Links for 03-09-2013

[andrewducker]

• Why the red-light district/sex trafficking video needs to fuck off
  (tags: sexwork video )
• NHS Scotland has a bunch of self-help guides to dealing with sleep, anger, panic, and other issues.
  (tags: scotland mentalhealth nhs )
• Microsoft to buy Nokia's mobile phone unit
  (tags: nokia phones microsoft )
• This is not what you want to see through your car

Comments

Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

I might put off buying an additional SONOS component for a few months if Spotify are taking music streaming to your stereo to a mass market. I’d still like one but I’d like to see what this move does to the price before I buy something.

Re: Spotify

[bart_calendar]

The thing is Spotify pays artists so little you might as well just pirate and then buy a T-shirt sold by the bands you like.

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

It pays about 1cent per stream. Which means that if I listen to a song 99 times then it's the equivalent of buying the single.

And that's if I listen to it 99 times _over my whole life_.

So rubbish songs that I listen to once or twice are a lot cheaper. But the songs I love are actually making the artists more than if I bought them.

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

Is that 1c into the hands of the artist i.e. after distrubution costs (?), marketing overheads etc?

And does that compare with paying $0.99 for the single in terms of the cutting and slicing of the revenue?

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

Some interesting discussion here:
http://www.sonicscoop.com/2013/07/31/op-ed-spotify-payouts-revisited-how-much-does-it-pay-now-and-how-much-should-artists-demand/

Looking at my Last.FM history, I seem to have listened to around 6 tracks in the last six months enough times to pay for them, and to be well on my way with another 15.

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

I find myself much more likely to take a chance on a song or an artist using streaming services than if I had to buy the physical media or download the song permanently for cash.

I have an all you can eat buffeet so I’m much more likely to try something new which means that artists who, sans streaming would not have made a penny trading with me, now get something. Andrew Jackson Jihad - a band I’d never heard of before searching for covers of American Tune - have probably made $0.50 from this year. Which they wouldn’t have made before streaming.

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

Yeah - I could be tempted.

My main issue is that Spotify don't do "family" accounts. At the moment Julie and I need to have separate accounts, and if we want to use the Spotify service on our Tivo then we have to log people in/out of it, using a rubbish login system.

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

I don’t think I’d shift from Sonos. I already have several bits which are in good working order. I think the competition might get Sonos to cut their price a bit, which would be nice.

We just run one account. It’s in my name and I pay for it but it’s a joint account really. Why do you have two accounts?

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

Because you can't play Spotify from multiple locations. So if I'm in work then Julie couldn't listen to it on her PC, or the TV, or whatever.

(You can do multi-room with Sonos, as they have a special license to do so. But AFAIK you can't listen to it on Sonos and also on your phone/PC.)

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

Ah - I see.

How the other half live, eh?

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

I take it that both you and YLW don't both listen to music in different places then?

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

Very rarely. MLW is just about down with transfering mp3’s to her phone and I don’t listen to music when I’m working or when walking to and from work so it never arises.

Re: Spotify

[andrewducker]

Aaah, that makes sense.

I'd go mad in the office without music to block out everyone's conversations.

Re: Spotify

[danieldwilliam]

I find music whilst working distracting. I can tune out conversation pretty well though.