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artkouros June 6 2013, 11:42:44 UTC
naked childrens! ohnoes!

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andrewducker June 6 2013, 11:45:25 UTC
Yeah. As a child I was naked a fair bit. And still wander about in as little clothes as possible when at home, because I mostly find it more comfortable than clothing. The idea that all nudity is sexual is one that bothers me quite a lot.

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danieldwilliam June 6 2013, 11:51:10 UTC
Yeah - me too.

Similarly I often wonder about my home with not many clothes on.

The Captain, aged 3 and a bit, can barely be induced to keep his strides on when we’re at any place with water. Photographing his lovely squishy toddlerness with him closed is pretty much impossible.

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philmophlegm June 6 2013, 12:54:39 UTC
But the article reveals what I think is a cultural difference. Many people are like you three and see nothing wrong with being naked or letting small children be naked. Other people (and I'm one of them) would find being being naked or being around naked adults (with obvious exceptions) or children very uncomfortable. (I lock the bathroom door when I have a bath, even if I'm the only person in the house ( ... )

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andrewducker June 6 2013, 13:11:05 UTC
Well, yes. I'd hope for some empathy. I wear clothes around other people because I don't want to make them feel uncomfortable. And I'd hope that people that felt uncomfortable around naked people would realise that this was their problem, not proof of abuse occurring.

Of course there's going to be a judgement call (Are there pictures of widely diverse children? Are they doing anything sexual? Etc.) And I can totally understand the PC Repair guy checking with the police if he thought the photos might be dodgy. But I'd expect the police expert to take one look, and either clear it, or have a ten second chat with the grandfather and _then_ clear it. Basically, I expect more from the police than from J Random Techie.

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philmophlegm June 6 2013, 13:24:19 UTC
Yes. It also concerns me that it was a long time before either lawyer actually looked at the photos. Wouldn't the CPS lawyer need to examine the evidence against the defendant?

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andrewducker June 6 2013, 13:27:29 UTC
Yup, not handing over evidence to a lawyer seems barkingly odd to me.

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danieldwilliam June 6 2013, 15:49:31 UTC
I’m with Andrew here. Empathy and appreciating that other people have a different point of view would seem important ( ... )

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ggreig June 6 2013, 16:41:18 UTC
When I was a baby/toddler, my parents didn't take any pictures of me naked, and insisted that relatives didn't either, on the grounds that the photos might embarrass me later (school age). While clearly there are differing opinions on this, and the case in the article should never have occurred, my parents' decision seems right to me, and respectful of what I might think or feel later at an age when I was too young to form or express my own opinion.

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artkouros June 6 2013, 12:02:20 UTC
Don't people read National Geographic anymore?

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