The one thing I've already noted about T2 is that it has gender-neutral costuming, which is pretty awesome. In T1, if you left an item of armour for a character of the opposite sex to use, it would morph from a sturdy set of leather chaps into a tiny pair of hotpants. Or vice versa.
I was quite impressed by the coverage of the armor for female characters! Drapey cloth shoulders things, actually covers! Not little bands on arms with elongated spikes!
Oddly, I played the first one as it was single-player and haven't bothered ordering the second one cos I suspect that anything that's new about it (rather than just wrapped in shinier graphics) is all wrapped up in the multiplayer side which I have no interest in. Other than that it looks like a (admittedly very good, probably much better that D3 but still) generic ARPG.
So much stuff seems to be going for the multiplayer market these days, it's depressing. If I want to play with other people, come over and play board games! Computer games are solo things - mainly cos you either need to pre-arrange to be online in a closed game with your friends (hard to do most of the time) or you get stuck in a random game with a bunch of 14-yr-old testosterone-fuelled misogynistic, homophobic morons. I may be being slightly grouchy, I admit, but there are so many games I look at on Steam and think, "Oooh, that could be fu... oh, multiplayer." Air Buccaneers looks awesome - multiplayer only. Ravaged could be a decent FPS - multiplayer only.
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I don't much like multiplayer. Or rather, I think I mean 'the only multiplayer video game I've ever truly enjoyed for its multiplayer elements is M.U.L.E.' . That was a long time ago now! Otherwise, I adore Puzzle Pirates but mostly for the single-player experiences that are wrapped up in the multi-player shell; apart from that it's hard to think of any games that match just sitting around a table with your family playing Cluedo, as we did the other night. I do like some asynchronous games (Draw Something, say), but they're hardly games at all. And we have occasionally had family fun round a console game (Mario Kart Double Dash is the standout here). But overall, I love video games precisely because I get to win all the time and can be completely antisocial.
Torchlight 2 will surely have a single player mode. It might be just like the first one, but the first one was enough different from FATE and its sequelae that I was happy enough with it. I certainly got much better value out of it than from the hideously expensive D3.
Not played torchlight yet -- but sitting in my email inbox was "why not buy 'humble indie bundle 6'" Torchlight + a good bunch of others for "however much you fancy paying".
Yes, well that is a copper-bottomed bargain if you like ARPGs at all and haven't played Torchlight. Though note that Torchlight is lots like FATE so if you hated that you will hate Torchlight too I'm pretty sure.
ARPG is not my favourite genre - I never finished diabolo. However, looks a group of games with enough variety in it. I love the choose your price model.
Sorry, which way round were the problems? I'd prefer a game where I did not have to click on all the objects to pick them up (or be able to choose whether or not that is the default behaviour), and I'd prefer a persistent world. I remember playing through Angband, and being annoyed how the levels changed every time you went through them (even just ducking down a step and then up again, if the stairs up even happened to be nearby!), so you couldn't prepare a safe route back up through the levels to the town.
Okay, thanks. I haven't played Diablo (although it's on my list of things to pick up some day), and your text was slightly ambiguous. Torchlight does look interesting. I might give it a shot at some point.
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Also, I do think that 'loot piñata' is an incredibly evocative phrase.
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http://www.diablowiki.net/Diablo_Loot_Pinata
I take it Torchlight isn't out for Mac yet?
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The one thing I've already noted about T2 is that it has gender-neutral costuming, which is pretty awesome. In T1, if you left an item of armour for a character of the opposite sex to use, it would morph from a sturdy set of leather chaps into a tiny pair of hotpants. Or vice versa.
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So much stuff seems to be going for the multiplayer market these days, it's depressing. If I want to play with other people, come over and play board games! Computer games are solo things - mainly cos you either need to pre-arrange to be online in a closed game with your friends (hard to do most of the time) or you get stuck in a random game with a bunch of 14-yr-old testosterone-fuelled misogynistic, homophobic morons. I may be being slightly grouchy, I admit, but there are so many games I look at on Steam and think, "Oooh, that could be fu... oh, multiplayer." Air Buccaneers looks awesome - multiplayer only. Ravaged could be a decent FPS - multiplayer only. ( ... )
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Torchlight 2 will surely have a single player mode. It might be just like the first one, but the first one was enough different from FATE and its sequelae that I was happy enough with it. I certainly got much better value out of it than from the hideously expensive D3.
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(I dunno about Diablo III - everything I read about it told me to stay away!)
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