Interesting Links for 20-07-2012

[andrewducker]

• Lack of evidence that popular sports products work (Including Puma, Lucozade, and amino acid supplements)
  (tags: sports science EpicFail fraud )
• Disability and sexuality: everything you think you know is wrong
  (tags: sexuality sex disability )
• Is Britain behaving better? (Crime at lowest level for 37 years, antisocial behaviour also down)

Comments

[randomchris]

I am at least somewhat in favour of extremely drunk people not being allowed to travel: there are several occasions when a late-night trip home has been made really horrible by someone vomiting up their alcohol in the same carriage. Equally horrible if they get to the toilet first, because my bike's usually next to it so I can't avoid the stench.

[andrewducker]

Oh yes. People that are a state of incapacity shouldn't be allowed to ruin the train for everyone else.

If they can clarify it to make it clear that they don't mean people who have had a few drinks, then I'd be a lot happier.

[fub]

The text specifically says "drunk", not "people who had a pint". I think there's no reason to fear breathaliser tests before being able to board the train.

[andrewducker]

I'd like to know what the definition of "drunk" they're worked to is.

[octopoid_horror]

What, precisely, do they expect to happen with drunk people who want to get home?

If pubs are happy to serve drunk people, but trains aren't happy to carry them, doesn't this just mean that if the rule is enforced on trains, there will be a bunch of drunk people with no way home stuck outside a closed station until morning?

Or do they assume that everyone out drinking will either moderate themselves accordingly, or else happen to have the money for a sudden taxi journey at midnight between Edinburgh and Glasgow or hotel room?

[bohemiancoast]

They don't. Pubs *aren't allowed* to serve anyone drunk. It's got a clear state in law, which is 'drunk and incapable', not 'a bit merry'.

[andrewducker]

Drunk _and_ incapable.

I'd like to know what the definition of "drunk" is, in this case.

[andrewducker]

As an aside, for the amusement of others, I once got refused service in a pub for being drunk.

I wasn't actually that drunk, I'd only had two drinks. But I was horribly distracted by the slot machine to my left, because bright flashing lights distract me easily, and I was trying to work out what the pattern of changing lights was.

I did use it as an excuse to abandon the works night out I was on though!

[channelpenguin]

Whereas I NEVER failed to get served, even though I was, on many an occasion quite, quite, hopelessly drunk.