Interesting Links for 30-10-2011

[andrewducker]

• New York cop records illegal orders (second half of the radio transcript at the link)
  (tags: police usa newyork transparency )
• Missilebreak Outvaders - Missile Command+Breakout+Space Invaders. At the same time!
  (tags: ComputerGames 80s arcade )
• Epic wolf hunt caught on camera - how the BBC filmed fleeing bison at 50 below.
  (tags: wildlife biology

Comments

[poisonduk]

Ah the event T-shirts hit me this year. We run the Edinburgh Pride Community Fair and this year there were new colour coded T-Shirts for the different areas of Pride - we were handed five pretty green T-shirts in a XXL. I could have fitted four of me in It. So the night before Pride I unpicked all the seams, cut several inches off, including making it more feminine shape, and stitched it all together again! Next day as the stall holders arrived I greeted the T Shrt stall where the producer of my shirt commented including saying she ad specifically asked if they wanted feminine fit but seemingly the organiser had insisted on unisex for all.

[momentsmusicaux]

But men and women aren't significantly different in shape as far as t-shirts should go. As far as I can tell, 'women's t-shirts' just mean tighter cut and with stupidly short arms.

[andrewducker]

Um, breasts? They alter the shape of women's chests a lot, and a t-shirt that's cut for men that's not too tight on a woman looks like a tent.

[momentsmusicaux]

So then t-shirts should have cup sizes. They don't.

[andrewducker]

No, because they're not that precise - but they are shaped differently. Take this as an example:
http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2006/12/tech_tshirts_ar.html
or this:
http://www.icoreeservices.com/icoreplanet/products/womenswear/85.jpg
or these:
http://tshirts.name/category/womens-t-shirts/nature-and-animals-t-shirts-women%E2%80%99s/

Women's t-shirts aren't just skinnier - they're differently shaped, to give space around the breasts, and then come in underneath that, rather than hanging like a tent.

[momentsmusicaux]

Yup, they're differently shaped, *to emphasise breasts*, not accommodate them. The baggy java shirt is can fit any size breasts rather well by the look of it.

My point is this: since when were conference t-shirts meant to be well-fitting for anyone? I'm tall and thin and I find even the S size is made for fat bastards.

Didn't read the OP because the site was down, but I am rather cynically thinking someone should perhaps put less stock in her appearance.

[andrewducker]

They shouldn't care about whether things look bad on them because you don't care about it?

The original site is back up now. Go take a look.

[poisonduk]

Personally I feel it's more about the hips than the breasts. A shirt fitting the breasts/waist can be tight across the hips causing it to rise up.

[momentsmusicaux]

> They’re designed for actual pre-pubescent girls, but they’re nice and stretchy! They’ll show off your breasts REALLY WELL

Ah right. Yes, when they do have women's sizes, it's those.

[naath]

Most men's T-shirts are cut to look like tents *on men* too (sure you get some tight T-shirts for men but not many). The distinguishing feature of "women's" T-shirts is usually that they are tightly fitted, making appropriate allowance for breasts.

Sometimes I prefer to wear women's T-shirts, but a lot of the time I prefer men's; precisely because they are NOT fitted, and thus draw less attention to my bust.

[poisonduk]

and the reason for stupidly short arms is some 'unisex' shirts have massive sleeves which at certain angles can be seen through thus allowing glimpses of bras/breasts. Just google 'side boob' images if you need proof. I won't let my 14 year old wear unisex T-shirts for exactly that reason, and I'm sure you'll realise the error of your thoughts when your daughter reaches that stage too.

[momentsmusicaux]

But then stupidly short means she'll feel she has to shave under her arms; otherwise any post-pubescent woman in t-shirts with that cut has tufts sticking out. Hence my point they are ridiculous.

And most women's t-shirts being v-neck means they reveal an awful lot there too.

I may yet do a u-turn in favour of the burqa in due course :(