Where do I reply, here or there? If it's there, I'll post this there later.
Anyway, here's my thought: I feel like there is an unspoken, but very enforced rule that men deserve more attention in class, and that women should let them speak first. At both the university I transferred from and our beautiful Alma Mater, I had the feeling that whatever a man said, no matter how contrite, got more air time than the women's comments. One day in particular, no men (other than the teacher) showed up for class, and honestly, I was a different person. Or should I say participant. I argued more, and the content of what I said was better. Maybe I subconsciously gag myself in the presence of men. But that day, I honestly regretted that I hadn't gone to a women's school. I think I would have learned to be more self confident in how I argue and present myself in conversation. To some extend, I think I take a non-confrontational Appalachian style. But, anyway, I thought I would have turned out more outspoken (good thing) had I gone to a women's college.
i was hoping opinions be posted there, not because i don't want to read them (i plan to stalk that post), but because that way i know sillyandmorbid will see them.
there are actually linguistic studies to back up your anecdotal observations: men interrupt women more (particularly in public settings like the classroom), and then hold the floor for significantly longer periods of time. As a woman, it's actually quite difficult to get your say. (And then, anecdotally again, because i haven't got lx studies for this observation as I'm not sure it's testable, what women actually say is often given less consideration than that of men.)
editing with love, because i didn't have time to type it up this morning. You are very smart and talented but not full of yourself, so i'm comfortable being idiotic (as i often am) around you. We have pretty similar backgrounds in some respects, so i think that helps us get along, but even when we don't see things exactly the same way, you're cool with talking about issues and stuff, which is also an awesome trait in a person! in short, you are cool! i am lucky to know you!
Anyway, here's my thought: I feel like there is an unspoken, but very enforced rule that men deserve more attention in class, and that women should let them speak first. At both the university I transferred from and our beautiful Alma Mater, I had the feeling that whatever a man said, no matter how contrite, got more air time than the women's comments. One day in particular, no men (other than the teacher) showed up for class, and honestly, I was a different person. Or should I say participant. I argued more, and the content of what I said was better. Maybe I subconsciously gag myself in the presence of men. But that day, I honestly regretted that I hadn't gone to a women's school. I think I would have learned to be more self confident in how I argue and present myself in conversation. To some extend, I think I take a non-confrontational Appalachian style. But, anyway, I thought I would have turned out more outspoken (good thing) had I gone to a women's college.
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there are actually linguistic studies to back up your anecdotal observations: men interrupt women more (particularly in public settings like the classroom), and then hold the floor for significantly longer periods of time. As a woman, it's actually quite difficult to get your say. (And then, anecdotally again, because i haven't got lx studies for this observation as I'm not sure it's testable, what women actually say is often given less consideration than that of men.)
editing with love, because i didn't have time to type it up this morning. You are very smart and talented but not full of yourself, so i'm comfortable being idiotic (as i often am) around you. We have pretty similar backgrounds in some respects, so i think that helps us get along, but even when we don't see things exactly the same way, you're cool with talking about issues and stuff, which is also an awesome trait in a person! in short, you are cool! i am lucky to know you!
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