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Jul 15, 2009 16:13

People are coming back to life after they were killed in the building?

This isn't..possible at all. Are the scientists using cloning to replace the people who died?

wtf, confused

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 20:42:32 UTC
It's not believed to be cloning but yes, the scientists resurrect those that die.

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an_investment July 15 2009, 20:59:54 UTC
How? It..doesn't make any sense to me, other than the cloning theory.

If they can raise the dead, what else can these scientists do?

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 21:04:48 UTC
I wouldn't know. Since those who die return with scars of their injuries, then it's difficult to say; I'm not a scientist.

Evidently, a number of things, although I'd hazard a guess and say that bringing back the dead is perhaps near the top of the list, as would, I imagine, their apparent ability to ignore time.

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an_investment July 15 2009, 21:08:50 UTC
God..I wonder what sort of technology they're hiding from us.

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 21:11:27 UTC
I can't say I care much beyond that which will return me.

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an_investment July 15 2009, 21:16:30 UTC
Yeah, getting back is the first priority, but if I could somehow bring the technology back home..

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 21:18:37 UTC
The technology to do what?

Attempts to play God don't impress me, I must admit.

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[Text, strikes not there] an_investment July 15 2009, 21:26:51 UTC
It would give humanity an edge over the Combine if they somehow make a rebound we can't catch first.

They're basically an empire that enslaved my planet.

Not to mention what we could do if we were able to..bring people back. ..Like my Dad.

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 21:30:57 UTC
Ah, I see.

If you could bring people back? I must admit, that is one desire I have never understood.

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an_investment July 15 2009, 21:39:23 UTC
Then..you mustn't have had anyone very important to you die.

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angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 21:42:22 UTC
Making assumptions on matters like that is not particularly wise.

I have. That doesn't mean I'd want for them to live again; they deserve to rest in peace, to be in a better place. Them living for my own wants, to relieve my suffering is not something I can [...] sympathise with. The relief of their suffering should come before my own.

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an_investment July 15 2009, 21:52:07 UTC
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No one knows if it's a better place, or not.

I'm not being selfish, either. No one really wants to die, and what if the person wasn't suffering beforehand? What about children that were killed?

What if..their work wasn't finished, here?

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he has. issues :| angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 22:02:32 UTC
I'm Catholic; I have my own beliefs on the after life and I do believe that [...] they are in Heaven rather than Hell or Purgatory. That aside, who's to say it's automatically worse?

'No one wants to die'? Some people do.

As for unjust deaths... Unfortunately, for as long as there are people, there will be those deaths. It might not be fair, but that is life. It's sorrowful and ultimately, the only person death hurts is the person, or people, left behind.

I can see no good in bringing the dead back to life. Is it truly fair to them to experience death and then bring them back with the knowledge of that death?

Then, of course, without death, what point is there in living? Life and death are forever intertwined and whilst both will never carry the definition of fairness, one cannot be complete without the other.

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lool alyx is gettin poed. an_investment July 15 2009, 22:13:02 UTC
No one wants to die. People who commit suicide are looking for an escape for their problems, and all they see is death. Solving the problems causing them to want to kill themselves is always better.

What if someone can be brought back to tell the name of their murderer? What if a mother or a father can be brought back to raise their family? Don't you think that those sort of people would be happy to be alive again? Is it fair? I think it's a lot fairer to all of them, for the dead, too.

I agree there might be problems with it, though. Death is important, it controls population among other things.

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Naruse isn't, he just. has a lot of issues with people dying |D angelic_lawyer July 15 2009, 22:21:20 UTC
Then, we disagree on that matter.

If I'm quite honest, if I were brought back from the dead with the sole intention to tell the name of my murderer, I would be far from impressed. Amongst other things, it would mean an ineffective police force.

That aside: with your examples, you must keep in mind this; unless you are willing to bring back all that die, it would be a form of judgement. 'This person deserves death', 'this person deserves life'.

Who are we to say who is deserving of life and death? Each person, be they a saint or a sinner, has people that care about them. For example, a man who kills another will be seen as a murderer by one set of people, to another group of people, the killing could be viewed as justified: who is right? When he dies, he still bears the label of a 'murderer', but even a murderer may be a father.

Does the murderer deserve to be brought back from the dead to raise his children? Are the imperfect and flawed really worthy of passing the judgement of life versus death?

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an_investment July 15 2009, 22:31:45 UTC
I wouldn't be upset at all if I was brought back to explain who killed me.

I..know, and that's the problem. I'm not an idiot, and I know the whole judging who should live and who should die would be extremely complicated if not impossible.

..I think it's best if we just agree to disagree. I don't want to argue with anyone here, when we should be working together to find a way out.

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