amw

modern hippies fail at hippiedom, exhibit 37

Aug 29, 2023 20:19

I read the news every day. Any given day in my life you can be sure of two things. I will drink coffee and i will read the news. To be honest, i mostly just glance the headlines because that's enough to give me general overview of what is going on in the world, but there are always a couple of articles a day that warrant a clickthrough ( Read more... )

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amw August 31 2023, 01:41:04 UTC
I've pondered this a lot, and to be fair i've never been to a festival in the US so i can't compare directly. I have been in Canada and Australia, though, and i think those countries share a lot more in common with the US culturally than Europe, at least festival-wise.

I'd like to say that Europe just has way more festivals to begin with, so there is more chance for small ones that cater to niche crowds who really care about the event an sich, but that might only be true of the styles of music and subcultures i gravitate toward. One thing i can objectively say is that i never took a private vehicle to a festival or outdoor party in Europe, but in Canada and Australia that was the only way. I think it definitely creates a different vibe when going to a festival means sitting on a bus or a train for a couple hours with a bunch of people who are all heading to the same place, and then you get there and it's just you and what you brought in your backpack. (Of course there are private drivers in Europe too, but they tend to be crew because vehicle camping is strictly limited or at some events outright banned for normal attendees.)

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geminiwench August 31 2023, 06:04:39 UTC
In Europe are they downtown festivals?
Or is it something where you can take over somewhere off the beaten path? I think of the Fringe festival or something where the whole city is taken over for... some time.

There are definitely downtown sorta corporate festivals in the U.S. but the wildest ones are generally out in a field somewhere.

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amw August 31 2023, 11:49:55 UTC
Oof, this is opening a can of worms, because if you start counting every event as a "festival", where do you draw the line? Let's say you add Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Do you also add Toronto International Film Festival? What about Just for Laughs (Montréal)? Frankfurt Luminale? Does Fulsom Street Fair (San Franciso) count? Notting Hill Carnival (London)? Calgary Stampede? San Diego Comic-Con? Are county fairs festivals? Are rodeos? Pow-wows? Weihnachtsmärkte? Pride? Wrestlemania?

In the context i have been talking about on this thread i am mostly thinking about hippie and rave type festivals, that is... psychedelic rock, folk music, electronic music, world music, poetry recitals, independent film, circus acts, installation art, trippy light shows, playground equipment designed for adults, weird situationist performances, vegan food, cauldrons full of chai, yoga, meditation, cacao, random other appropriated new age rituals... and all that against a backdrop of nature, out in the sticks somewhere.

But of course there are urban versions of the same thing. And there are varying degrees of the same thing, like more musically oriented, or more spiritually oriented, or more capital-A Art oriented. So the broader you try to cast the net, the less you can really generalize.

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geminiwench August 31 2023, 17:07:57 UTC
That's what I was trying to figure out.

But I think most events go through a big sea-change when they become overtly "popular".... where the attendees are less and less involved with the reason the event is taking place, and start showing up simply because there is an Event Taking Place, irrelative of it's meaning/purpose....

... what I mean is....

... fucking tourists.

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