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Well, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time but I really have no idea what to think yet about SPN 6.16. This requires a second viewing.
EDITED TO ADD:
LJ IS NOT ALLOWING ME TO PASTE TEXT OMG WHAT THE HELLL.
Anyway, I did a second viewing, and there are just some episodes that I don't know what I think about them until I get to discuss them with dafnap and gabby_silang because my brain no longer fully functions without them when it comes to SPN. If it ever did!
OKAY, paste seems to be working now!
spn 6.16 running thoughts
"Your apocalypse came and went and you didn't even notice." great line.
As gabby_silang mentioned, I'm a little disappointed that they seem to be going with an uncomplicated big-badness with the Mother of All.
SANDUSKY OHIO -- perhaps they'll stop off at Cedar Pointe!
"Sam, take Dean for a walk." Man, I have a weakness for unapologetically homicidal Dean.
Man, I'm kinda pissed they killed off Gwen. I mean, the shock value was A++ but still, I liked Gwen and felt like more could have been done with her character.
oh my god weird music. Sometimes I like it okay, sometimes it's just ... what was that? At times it's innappropriately jaunty and actually takes away from the tension of scenes.
I thought Dean was calling the worm thing a harpy for the longest time. Herpes makes absolutely no sense. Unless it's another attempt to get at the underlying theme of Dean and sexual assault from this season, but it just played awkwardly to me.
The scene when Bobby and Rufus are trying to call for help and Dean just sits there GLARING HIS DEATH GLARE at Samuel. I approve.
I really enjoyed Sam and Dean in this, the well-oiled machine of them. Both of them getting up to follow Samuel? Yeah.
When that big metal door closes between Sam and the others, there's this moment of absolute fear on Dean's face. Auuuugh.
Jared P. totally rocked that scene between Sam and Samuel. Man that was good. I'm really impressed with his acting this season.
I think missyjack pointed out that the three deaths in this episode were all mirrors in some way of the people who killed them: Dean/Gwen, Sam/Samuel, Bobby/Rufus. Dean kills Gwen at her moment of figuring out her patriarch figure doesn't deserve her loyalty, Sam kills Samuel at the moment when Samuel offers to give Sam knowledge of what he did without a soul, and Bobby and Rufus have Omaha unforgiven between them. Sam seemed especially shocked that he killed Samuel -- he was the only one *not* possessed by the Monster Worm Without a Name.
How Dean hangs back when they come upon Sam after he kills Samuel. Just stands there while Bobby and Rufus cuff Sam and question him.
"Bobby, you got a cranial saw in the car?" / "Of course." lololol
Alot of red in this episode.
"Just 'cause you're blood, doesn't make you family. You gotta earn that." aw fuck, Dean.
I like that they allow Rufus to choose not to forgive Bobby for whatever happened in Omaha. There's something there, but I can't articulate it.
"This can't be my afterlife, because the three of you are here." OH RUFUS. DAMMIT.
Checking for goo seems like not the best indication of anything, since goo wasn't visible in Samuel at first either. SOMETIMES HUNTERS ARE A LITTLE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE. Though that scene was hilarious. As was the next scene, with the electrocuting each other. Oh my god. Sam is hardcore.
"I'm down three toes, too."
RUUUUFFFUUUUUUUS NOOOOOOOOOO.
There's that herpes thing again. I keep thinking of "An Everlasting Piece." Again, I don't think the sexual connotation is accidental (SPN has always spoken of possession of humans in sexual terms -- demons riding people, angel condoms -- and I guess they're going the STD route with monster possession? It just doesn't quite come out smoothly in the dialog to me somehow.).
Red light again.
The color sceme this season has tended towards acid, sickly greens, but this ep has lots of fire engine red.
Dean and torture. Again, doesn't seem like an accident. This one is more obvious, I suppose.
"You'll live in pens. We'll serve up your young and call it veal." Maybe the idea is a bit cliche, but I like this line a whole lot.
Is the Mother pissed at her children being hunted by hunters? A vendetta specifically against hunters would be awesome, but ... we don't have any recurring hunter characters left besides Bobby now.
...so, I guess they got Bobby breathing again? hahahaha.
RUFUS. I am so going to miss you. I know the show kills EVERYONE OFF EVER but I hope Rufus comes back, dammit. Bobby's backstory with Rufus was about what I expected, and man. Hunters. I think the biggest reason I'm perturbed that they killed off the Campbells is that I really loved the idea of a more organized, hereditary clan of hunters, in contrast to the ad-hoc, trauma origin stories of all the other hunters we've met, including Bobby. Though we never did find out how Rufus got into hunting.
Someone checked this book out at the library I work in a few months ago, and at the time all I could think was RUFUS. God, I'm a huge nerd. I really want more of Rufus's backstory though. He's one of my favorite secondary characters.
Dean's speech is the closest he's going to come to admitting he's got issues from the time Sam was without his soul and issues with Bobby for not telling him Sam was alive, huh? It's not unearned, what he's saying, but it's a different choice than I expected the show to take there.
I feel like Dean meant "blanket forgiveness" not "blanket apology" in that scene, so it read a little weird. But Dean's kind of a mixed up guy when it comes to this stuff, so I'm not sure that wasn't intentional.
I have no conclusions yet about the ep. It feels weird to me, like I can see edges of where the story may have changed, I really don't know. I was spoiled for Rufus's death, but still disappointed he's gone. As for the Campbells, I think it's more the potential (and the fact that SPN needs more lady characters, always) that disappoints me more than their actual deaths.
EDITED TO ADD:
LJ IS NOT ALLOWING ME TO PASTE TEXT OMG WHAT THE HELLL.
Anyway, I did a second viewing, and there are just some episodes that I don't know what I think about them until I get to discuss them with dafnap and gabby_silang because my brain no longer fully functions without them when it comes to SPN. If it ever did!
OKAY, paste seems to be working now!
spn 6.16 running thoughts
"Your apocalypse came and went and you didn't even notice." great line.
As gabby_silang mentioned, I'm a little disappointed that they seem to be going with an uncomplicated big-badness with the Mother of All.
SANDUSKY OHIO -- perhaps they'll stop off at Cedar Pointe!
"Sam, take Dean for a walk." Man, I have a weakness for unapologetically homicidal Dean.
Man, I'm kinda pissed they killed off Gwen. I mean, the shock value was A++ but still, I liked Gwen and felt like more could have been done with her character.
oh my god weird music. Sometimes I like it okay, sometimes it's just ... what was that? At times it's innappropriately jaunty and actually takes away from the tension of scenes.
I thought Dean was calling the worm thing a harpy for the longest time. Herpes makes absolutely no sense. Unless it's another attempt to get at the underlying theme of Dean and sexual assault from this season, but it just played awkwardly to me.
The scene when Bobby and Rufus are trying to call for help and Dean just sits there GLARING HIS DEATH GLARE at Samuel. I approve.
I really enjoyed Sam and Dean in this, the well-oiled machine of them. Both of them getting up to follow Samuel? Yeah.
When that big metal door closes between Sam and the others, there's this moment of absolute fear on Dean's face. Auuuugh.
Jared P. totally rocked that scene between Sam and Samuel. Man that was good. I'm really impressed with his acting this season.
I think missyjack pointed out that the three deaths in this episode were all mirrors in some way of the people who killed them: Dean/Gwen, Sam/Samuel, Bobby/Rufus. Dean kills Gwen at her moment of figuring out her patriarch figure doesn't deserve her loyalty, Sam kills Samuel at the moment when Samuel offers to give Sam knowledge of what he did without a soul, and Bobby and Rufus have Omaha unforgiven between them. Sam seemed especially shocked that he killed Samuel -- he was the only one *not* possessed by the Monster Worm Without a Name.
How Dean hangs back when they come upon Sam after he kills Samuel. Just stands there while Bobby and Rufus cuff Sam and question him.
"Bobby, you got a cranial saw in the car?" / "Of course." lololol
Alot of red in this episode.
"Just 'cause you're blood, doesn't make you family. You gotta earn that." aw fuck, Dean.
I like that they allow Rufus to choose not to forgive Bobby for whatever happened in Omaha. There's something there, but I can't articulate it.
"This can't be my afterlife, because the three of you are here." OH RUFUS. DAMMIT.
Checking for goo seems like not the best indication of anything, since goo wasn't visible in Samuel at first either. SOMETIMES HUNTERS ARE A LITTLE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE. Though that scene was hilarious. As was the next scene, with the electrocuting each other. Oh my god. Sam is hardcore.
"I'm down three toes, too."
RUUUUFFFUUUUUUUS NOOOOOOOOOO.
There's that herpes thing again. I keep thinking of "An Everlasting Piece." Again, I don't think the sexual connotation is accidental (SPN has always spoken of possession of humans in sexual terms -- demons riding people, angel condoms -- and I guess they're going the STD route with monster possession? It just doesn't quite come out smoothly in the dialog to me somehow.).
Red light again.
The color sceme this season has tended towards acid, sickly greens, but this ep has lots of fire engine red.
Dean and torture. Again, doesn't seem like an accident. This one is more obvious, I suppose.
"You'll live in pens. We'll serve up your young and call it veal." Maybe the idea is a bit cliche, but I like this line a whole lot.
Is the Mother pissed at her children being hunted by hunters? A vendetta specifically against hunters would be awesome, but ... we don't have any recurring hunter characters left besides Bobby now.
...so, I guess they got Bobby breathing again? hahahaha.
RUFUS. I am so going to miss you. I know the show kills EVERYONE OFF EVER but I hope Rufus comes back, dammit. Bobby's backstory with Rufus was about what I expected, and man. Hunters. I think the biggest reason I'm perturbed that they killed off the Campbells is that I really loved the idea of a more organized, hereditary clan of hunters, in contrast to the ad-hoc, trauma origin stories of all the other hunters we've met, including Bobby. Though we never did find out how Rufus got into hunting.
Someone checked this book out at the library I work in a few months ago, and at the time all I could think was RUFUS. God, I'm a huge nerd. I really want more of Rufus's backstory though. He's one of my favorite secondary characters.
Dean's speech is the closest he's going to come to admitting he's got issues from the time Sam was without his soul and issues with Bobby for not telling him Sam was alive, huh? It's not unearned, what he's saying, but it's a different choice than I expected the show to take there.
I feel like Dean meant "blanket forgiveness" not "blanket apology" in that scene, so it read a little weird. But Dean's kind of a mixed up guy when it comes to this stuff, so I'm not sure that wasn't intentional.
I have no conclusions yet about the ep. It feels weird to me, like I can see edges of where the story may have changed, I really don't know. I was spoiled for Rufus's death, but still disappointed he's gone. As for the Campbells, I think it's more the potential (and the fact that SPN needs more lady characters, always) that disappoints me more than their actual deaths.