We Do What We're Told...Burnett episodes part II

Feb 18, 2007 11:48

Have a headache, and the cat has taken up residence on my chest, which makes typing a challenge. But I'm game.

So while I watch these episodes I just can't get that Peter Gabriel song out of my head, the one they play during the original Hackman episode when Sonny realizes he's been had. The chorus is an eery voice intoning "We do what we're told ( Read more... )

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wow hellocleveland February 19 2007, 04:40:30 UTC
i am behind in my DVR viewing but i feel like i already watched the episode....bravo. and surely, all this renewed Vice viewing on your part is going to materialise in the form of a story, right?

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Re: wow amonitrate February 19 2007, 18:14:21 UTC
hee. Thanks. Oh, the plots bunnies are already percolating. There's got to be a Caroline story in there somewhere. Sonny Burnett and Caroline coming face to face... i dunno. SO far my ideas are too obvious and klunky but we'll see.

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TWOP really should snap you up for MV oddmonster February 21 2007, 17:11:25 UTC
I personally am *loving* the recap-with-analysis fangirl angle. Although I have this sinking suspicion that any recap you could write for "Down for the Count" would bring me to tears ( ... )

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Re: TWOP really should snap you up for MV amonitrate February 22 2007, 05:04:27 UTC
hmm. Twin Peaks/MV connection. Now you've got me intrigued. Say more...

The dream sequence feels sorta 70's acid trip to me, just a little, but in a non-cheesy way. I don't know why it's not cheesy to me, it probably should be.

OOh, go on for days, please! I love this kind of discussion. I remember very little specifically about the Fisher King legend besides that he was cured when someone asked him what was wrong, or something like that.

I was thinking about MV as a police show earlier today and how it's *not* a police procedural like pretty much all cop shows now. It's first and foremost a drama - half the time they don't catch the bad guy, and if they do the bad guys get off. NOt exactly "Law and Order."

Wish I'd watched more tv in the eighties so I could do justice to a comparative study. I"m going by conjecture and what other people tell me; I'd love to compare the way Vice handles typical storylines (such as the amnesia one ) compared to say Magnum.

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And then it went sort of all meta on us oddmonster February 22 2007, 18:21:54 UTC
This story arc is crying out for the type of essays that render a person fit for only one thing: grad school. I can see at least 4 separate digressions I could take ( ... )

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Re: And then it went sort of all meta on us oddmonster February 23 2007, 02:16:00 UTC
I pulled up my TP DVDs tonight and you're right about Cooper's supervisor not appearing in the Lodge dream connected to Episode 3; also I screwed up on where the Lodge first appears--it's Episode 2, not 3.

I think I'm onto something here, but I'm not sure what. I'm trying to think how they're completely unalike, and I see what you're saying about Gina and Trudy; I don't know what to think of them being veiled either. I'll ponder, but yeah, it's odd. Is them + Caitlyn's absence pointing to Sonny being married to his job, to his squad, more than her?

You've gotta be right about Caitlyn's absence being important to the heart of the amnesia, but I can't put my finger on exactly how. I may just have been bloviating wildly on my lunch hour. :)

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Re: And then it went sort of all meta on us amonitrate February 23 2007, 02:34:12 UTC
Well, I think I'll write more about this later; but I see Crockett's amnesia and becoming Burnett as almost two related things instead of one single event. Amnesia can be physical (due to injury) or psychogenic (due to stress/trauma) as well as messy combinations of the two. Which I think is most likely in this case. I think the injury caused the initial amnesia in Mirror Image; then Crockett's unconscious inability to face what happened to Caitlin and his subsequent murder of Hackman might have caused him to both a)be unable to access his past and b)"create" the persona of Burnett, the one we see in Hostile Takeover, the man in control.

Even when he starts to remember he doesn't have flashbacks to either Caitlin's death or his killing Hackman. Perhaps oversight by the writers; if I'm fanwanking I see it as significant.

More later. It's all about the line he crossed when he killed Hackman and his guilt over Caitie. IMO, of course.

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