But advocating a tax on acquired wealth is an attack on their successes.
We're told all the time that we can achieve anything if we just try hard enough. I think that's a fallacy.
As soon as you internalize what you see as a fallacy, aren't you killing off some hope? Some ambition? Skepticism is healthy, but disbelief in potential is just sad.
Altough rich people pay a lot of money for taxes it's actually the middle and working class that pays the larges percentage of tax based on the money they make.
So we should have a 71% flat tax on income and drop every under $35,000 from the tax rolls. Ability to afford taxes does not mean you should pay more.
Also, being rich is a gateway. You can't really say if something is desirved if dad is an alumni at some fancy college chances are his kid is going to get into that same college. Some people are predetermined to succeed in life.
I can't accept defeatist thinking like that. It advocates the idea that it's ok feel victimized on a class level... and persecute others for theirs. Tough to be happy, that way.
So what exactly are you trying to say? I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. I think it's that the rich drive the economy, correct? The rich certainly own the companies that everyone else works for, but I would think the workers are the ones who drive the economy. So lets just say the working class doesn't go to work any more...I think the economy would take a severe nose dive don't you? What happens if all the rich people don't show up to work? Oh wait, they're all on vacation in Tahiti anyhow, and the workers are still there making the economy run. Americas economy needs workers or it has nothing. You have to see that.
You say the rich should be idolized and they are. Society holds them on a pedestal.
And I really don't care that you can't "accept" the fact that certain doors are open to some and closed to others. It's true. I've seen it first hand, happens every day. It's not a defeatist attitude it's acknowleging certain societal status quos. There's been no victimizing or persecution here. I'm just saying that the child of rich family is going to be exposed to more oppurtunity and resources in life than the child of a working class family.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is here. I think it's that the rich drive the economy, correct?
That attacking wealth is folly.
What happens if all the rich people don't show up to work?
The eqivalent here would be the rich closing the stores and factories, leaving the workers to stay at home, too.
And I really don't care that you can't "accept" the fact that certain doors are open to some and closed to others. It's true.
Certain doors... yes. Bigger doors... with shiny knobs... sure. But when you phrase it so that it sounds like there are few or no doors, I have to disagree AND attack that phrasing (especially around impressionable types).
It's not a defeatist attitude it's acknowleging certain societal status quos.
So you honestly don't see a catastrophic collaspe of the ecomony if the working class don't show up to work any more? I thought this whole discussion was that the rich drive the economy...?
Well, what a thought provoking discussion. I'm glad you can justify your argument, it's been completely educational.
But advocating a tax on acquired wealth is an attack on their successes.
We're told all the time that we can achieve anything if we just try hard enough.
I think that's a fallacy.
As soon as you internalize what you see as a fallacy, aren't you killing off some hope? Some ambition? Skepticism is healthy, but disbelief in potential is just sad.
Altough rich people pay a lot of money for taxes it's actually the middle and working class that pays the larges percentage of tax based on the money they make.
So we should have a 71% flat tax on income and drop every under $35,000 from the tax rolls. Ability to afford taxes does not mean you should pay more.
Also, being rich is a gateway. You can't really say if something is desirved if dad is an alumni at some fancy college chances are his kid is going to get into that same college. Some people are predetermined to succeed in life.
I can't accept defeatist thinking like that. It advocates the idea that it's ok feel victimized on a class level... and persecute others for theirs. Tough to be happy, that way.
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You say the rich should be idolized and they are. Society holds them on a pedestal.
And I really don't care that you can't "accept" the fact that certain doors are open to some and closed to others. It's true. I've seen it first hand, happens every day. It's not a defeatist attitude it's acknowleging certain societal status quos. There's been no victimizing or persecution here. I'm just saying that the child of rich family is going to be exposed to more oppurtunity and resources in life than the child of a working class family.
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That attacking wealth is folly.
What happens if all the rich people don't show up to work?
The eqivalent here would be the rich closing the stores and factories, leaving the workers to stay at home, too.
And I really don't care that you can't "accept" the fact that certain doors are open to some and closed to others. It's true.
Certain doors... yes. Bigger doors... with shiny knobs... sure. But when you phrase it so that it sounds like there are few or no doors, I have to disagree AND attack that phrasing (especially around impressionable types).
It's not a defeatist attitude it's acknowleging certain societal status quos.
It's how you acknowledge, I guess.
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Well, what a thought provoking discussion. I'm glad you can justify your argument, it's been completely educational.
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Oh, sure... but it's symbiotic. The bosses need workers and the workers need bosses.
I thought this whole discussion was that the rich drive the economy...?
nope.
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