...Interesting Convo...
Okay...katie and I had this very interesting convo about love...just posted it for the heck of it. Thought someone might find it interesting.
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Do you ever wonder if there are people out there talking about us at this very moment? Like talking to each other about how they can't live without us...of how that can't stand a minute away from us?
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Yes I do that alot. Its mostly coming from all the bad things MA has done for me. When someone says they love you its not a joke, not something to say just because you think it will make that person sleep with you, its a real emotion. I have fallen in love, I enjoy this person very much, but I dont want to think about what is going to happen when he leaves. I
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
I often sit up late at night wondering what life is going to be like when I leave from here. I ponder about my marriage. I dont want to get married and then somewhere down the road think of me as annoying and bitchy or a ball and chain you know. It is frustrating!
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Yeah. I mean I know what love is...but I get confused on what "in" love is. I mean I love you for crying out loud...lol. But anyways...I think I have had my first "love", but then after they go you begin to wander if you will have a stronger love...one that is deeper. If you do, then what you thought was "love" before wasn't really love and was merely a crush. So it's like you never know how deep the measure of your love goes...
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Exactly, why is it that we have so many crushes that we think is love. How come we have to be attracted to people that deep down we know arent "good or right" for us. Is it some cruel joke that these people are playing on us, or do they have these crushes on us too?
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I have no clue...sometimes I think love is out there literally just to fool us. To play games with our mind. All I want is to be loved by someone so much. Another thing...there is no such thing as a "perfect" relationship. Every relationship has its ups and downs, so how in the hell can there be a "perfect" one. Why do people act like everything is just dandy when it's not?
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
I dont understand that either! There is nothing wrong in my eyes when a couple is fighting, I see it as a sign of things coming out in the open. And yet they have a different oppion about it. But to act like there is nothing bad going on in your relationship is obsered, when there is, like you said, no such thing as the "perfect" relationship. Another thing I dont understand is that when someone clearly doesnt love the person they are with and they say I love you to them. Why most some people lead others on just to get what they want, when I am sure if it is within reasonable limits they would gladly give them what they wanted?
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Right! So true! Oh yes...and why in relationships if someone is not happy with their significant other..why in the fuck do they stay with them. I mean if all they do is complain about them to another person, then why in the hell do you go see them the next day, or call them the next second. These things just totally throw love down in the mudd. I mean I'm not trying to do that...it's just I'm trying to come to reality about this...I want to know these things. I'm sure when I get married my feelings will change, but I want to know now...why whould we have to go through life getting broken hearted just because we don't know the answers.
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
I know what you mean, it makes now since that someone would do that to their significant other when they know deep down that they dont want them there. Maybe its the fact that they are unable to see that if they let this "significant other" go that they would be able to find the right person that give them the whole package. I want to know why we cant see who is right for us the first go around instead of dating someone becuase he is hot or my bestfriend talked me into it. True some good things have come from those types of things but 9 times out of 10 nothing but anger and heartach will come from it.
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True...when I like to do something...I like to do it right the first time. Can't do that with relationships though...have to go through about a billion of them. I mean I have had boyfriends, but Max -last boyfriend- was my first real boyfriend. Like where we went out on double dates and stuff...just my first real boyfriend...best I can describe. I didn't love him though. I mean I cared for him, but I wasn't "in" love with him. That was totally pointless to date him if ya know what I mean...
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Yes I understand completely, I stayed with James for a whole 6 months knowing I didnt love him. Also I knew he was cheating on me as well as lieing to get what he wanted. THats all I was to James. He heard threw a friend about my family and thought since he was poor that I could help him out or something to that affect. My mother fell for it to she was giving him things left and right. But with Gary it is different. He didnt immediatly run to my mother and hang under her nose all the time. Gary stayed with me, hung out with me, and pretty much told me that if I wanted more "Passionate" things to happen in our relationship that I would have to deside that for myself, and only if I truly wanted it. And you know how that ended up. He comes by to see me, not just for a "booty call". That is just an added bonous.
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Wow...that is really messed up Katie! Things like that worry me. I don't want my guy cheating on , I don't want him using me. Well number one...it would be hard for a guy to use me for much. My parents aren't just going to give him money, and second I don't put out...so sorry boys. I don't want a guy to talk trash about me behind my back either. Things like that just scare me. It brings me back to the point I made earlier..I just want someone to truly love me. Think I'm perfect in their eyes...which I'm far from..I want them to think everything I do is cute, love me for who I am, respect me...I mean I guess it is just too much to ask. I'm glad you found Gary though!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Yes I see your point but the things that went on between me and Gary havent been told and I wasnt presured into anything. I want what you want as well, though for me it is way to must to ask.
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Yeah. Well I talked to you at Ashton's party about how I felt for someone. It wasn't the first time that I had felt that for them though. Before I moved the feelings were there...just as strong. I moved though...causing that to go down hill. I come back though and it's like the feelings are still there. You know? I mean...I can talk so much to a close friend about relationships, like you, but when I'm with the guy that I care about...it's like my feelings freeze...my heart starts to beat so fast I can't control it....I just get really scared I guess...I never want to ruin anything...so scared of that...
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
I know that feeling, I get it mostly when I am with someone I like but I havent told yet and I am afraid to. Its like with Gary, I never told anyone how I truely felt about him till the other day. Yes I love him, I feel safe with him, Im happy and unafraid to be stupid or say something that doesnt make any since and laugh about it as soon as it happens like with you only a smige different. I want you to have that. Its increadible to have someone care for you for no reason at all. But if you love them back it makes it TEN times better.
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Yeah....I like that...care for you for no reason at all. That's a pretty nice saying. I want that. Yes....alli wants someone to care for her for no reason at all. I don't think I've ever talked with someone about this stuff...it really means a lot to me katie!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
It means alot to me too allison!! This is stuff I have never even told anyone. I dont see anyone understanding what happend between me and Gary and I sometimes am afraid to tell people about my feelings on "annoying one person for the rest of my life" thing, ya know.
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yeah....I totally understand. The guy I was telling you about though...he knows so much about me that others don't know. I can talk to him with my insane comments and usually not really care. He is one of the few that I don't get to nervous with. I really like being comfortable around him. It makes me feel good. I feel really bad when I have to put on an act in front of a guy...for example...girls not eating in front of guys....I'm guilty of that *hits self* can't believe it, but I am!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
So am I. I did that with Riley, I think I lost about 20 pounds in a week. WOW it was terrible but I got soo nervous becuase he was by FIRST boyfriend. Yet I did it for all the wrong reasons
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Yeah...I remember that. Oh...I just forgot one thing I despise!!! Have you ever noticed a guy who is sooo madly in love with a girl and the girl just stomps all over them and treats them like shit...? *coughmybrothercoughandotherfriendscough* I hate that! If I had a guy care for me as much as they care for those bitches, I would be in heaven! Why do the stuck up bitches that drag there boyfriends down get them...why do they get the guys that would do anything for them at anytime...if they said jump they would literally ask how high!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Yeah I dont understand that! I understand what it is like to have someone madly in love with you and yet your heart belongs to another. Its terrible when they dont let up after you flat out tell them. I cant see ever doing that to my boyfriend. I dont even want to hit him when he makes a comment that hurts my feelings *even though I have thought about it hehe*. But to use your boyfriend just because he loves you and would do ANYTHING in the world for you is just horrible.
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Yeah...it really is. It really messes the guy up to after a relationship like that. They don't know if they can love again, and they are always going to be stuck up the bitches ass if you know what I mean...one of my friends in South Carolina that I grew up with and went to see this summer is going through it. The girl is an asswipe and is dragging him through the dirt...he has changed towards his family and he is just up her butt...he will do anything to get her back and he has even caught her with the girl...and he still...HE STILL..treats her like nothing has happened!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Oh that is HORRIBLE I mean I know Gary would do anything for me *within limits* but that doesnt mean I make him do anything for me AT all. I am sorry about your friend I hope you can help him through it and that he see's the wrong in that relationship. Im not saying they are wrong for each other, becuase I dont know them AT all, but I will say what she is doing to him is WRONG!! And someone should make him see that. Even if he doesnt want to in the begaining but deep down he will be better for it.
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Yeah...we have all been trying to make him see that, but when someone is like that...they are so blinded by love that they can't see passed anything else...they just get pissed at people that try to tell them the truth.
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
I know but that is just the hard part the bad part is when she leaves him for NO reason AT all and it leaves him heartbroken and torn for life! And when he finnally meets someone who truely does love him, he wont be able to handle it as well as he would if all of that never happened to him. Which is sad and I for one would be pissed at myself if I where doing that to someone and everyone else just watched me do it.
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Yeah...I just can't imagine myself doing that to a guy. Please kill me if I ever do something like that. I would hate myself...I would hate for two girls like us to talk about me and for them to have the right to because I would be a dirty little bitch. LOL! I just don't understand sometimes...things are so complicated!
Kay-tee ya Gary* says:
Complicated is just such and understatement at this point hun! LOL