Even More Heroics

Oct 04, 2006 11:07

I caught the second episode of Heroes on the NBC website, after completely forgetting to watch it on Monday. Honest to gosh, I may never watch television on a television again. First Dexter last week and now this....

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engelhardtlm1 October 4 2006, 18:03:45 UTC
Wow, I'm feeling in a LOST mood... Theorizing and everything... Which would make it LOST Season 1.

I also enjoy the evil dad... Who I think is evil, and even if not, he's very creepy.

I think that the fact that Papa S. didn't delete the message COULD indicate that he never got it... I don't recall if it was an old or new message... Or it could indicate that Papa S. was insane... Or otherwisely absent-minded.

The Hiro stuff: I think that the show holds to a "flexible time line"/multiverse theory. So, just because Hiro sees New York get nuked in 5 weeks doesn't mean that it will necessarily get nuked in 5 weeks, as his return will change us to a different timeline (seeing as in the other timeline, he didn't return, as if he did, he wouldn't have been missing). Of course, we can't rule out that the "nuke" was actually a phenomenon created by Hiro screwing with space-time so much. Maybe it wasn't a nuke, but was rather the space-time ripple that results in the new timeline taking over... Who knows? When you start messing with time, you usually get stuck in one of three theories: 1) Temporal Determinism, in which case the future and past are inflexible. 2) Temporal Flexibility, in which case messing with the past changes the present/future, but usually through some kind of "ripple" that spreads forward from the point at which the past was "changed". or 3) Multiverse, in which each possible world exists, and you "changing the timeline" actually just means that you begin experiencing a different possible world. (Likewise, you can have visions of future points in other potential timelines and then take actions so that this version of you doesn't result in that potentiality... Of course, there's also another version of you that chooses to act differently based on these visions in such a way that the foreseen potentiality DOES occur... This is necessary for you to "foresee" that potentiality.) Naturally, numbers 2 and 3 are hard to distinguish, unless you imagine yourself being outside time looking at the timeline unfold. Then, 2 looks like a line followed by a tree of potentialities, and as time passes, the unchosen branches are "eliminated"... Unless of course someone goes back and makes the timeline "jump" to a different potentiality, at which point the "future" (present) either changes immediately, or a "ripple" spreads from the "present" (past) to the "future" (present) (think the fading picture in Back to the Future). 3 would look like a stable tree, in which every potentiality is actualized by some part of the multiverse...

In short, in 2, only 1 "actual" universe exists, while in 3, an essentiall infinite of actual universes exist (the "multiverse").

Generally speaking, I think that Greek legends prefer #1, Hollywood prefers #2, and Douglas Adams prefers #3.

Which Heroes likes is up in the air...

Actually, I think that some superheroes DO "fly". That is, that their telekinesis can ONLY apply to themselves. (Here I think of the incarnations of Superman that I'm familiar with.) Of course, there are some flyers who don't use telekinesis... Storm uses focused air movements, and the Human Torch manipulates the temperature of the air directly surrounding his body. But, it is a very interesting idea that Peter can't fly... And I wouldn't be shocked if you were right... Except that the belief that he can fly could lead Peter to jump off a building when his brother ISN'T around, which would look sadly like suicide... Not good for a politician in an election year. So, I think he can fly... That or the politician brother is dumber than he seems.

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amberdulen October 4 2006, 18:57:35 UTC
You're right about Superman...there's a lot more in the other camp, though, like the two you mentioned and Angel and the Vulture and Magneto...I don't know much about the Green Lantern, doesn't he fly too?

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engelhardtlm1 October 5 2006, 02:43:57 UTC
One thing: I retract my stupid statement about Papa S. not getting the message... Considering that he answered the phone. So, yes, Papa S. was stupid.

As for Green Lantern, I don't know...

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godgivensmile October 5 2006, 11:47:10 UTC
In the cartoon series of the Justice League, he does. I think however it is the flying of the telekenesis type.

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