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Nov 16, 2015 23:00

I've said a lot of things elsewhere on this because I havent been able to create posts.  But let me say this ( Read more... )

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bluemeanybeany November 17 2015, 05:09:31 UTC
It doesnt really matter if the passport is fake, ie the terrorist is syrian, i mean he clearly wasnt a genuine refugee anyway. (Besides which lots of the migrants are using fake passports anyway) It matters if the fuckwit used the refugee path to get in, which it looks like he did because it looks like he was rescued from one of the sinking boats in Greece last month. However in the long term it may turn out better for the migrants, if you imagine that most of Europe is currently running a very tolerant policy of simply letting them go and helpfully pointing them in the direction of their neighbours border. I mean thats not sustainable anyway and never was going to be, the mass transit across europe is not a great thing. If you have to registered and stop and take an interest you also have to help., not just politely and tolerantly let the pass through. Theyll be no open border policy for Europe anymore, but then that always was going to happen sooner or later. The situation where some migrants end up living in shanty towns because they refuse to claim asylum in the country theyre in will hopefully just not be allowed anymore as countries wont let them just hang around if their identity is unverified.

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alton_lust November 17 2015, 21:30:16 UTC
How do they know he went that way? Fingerprints?

It sucks long AND short term. Half of my country's state governors have already called to ban all Syrian refugees starting with the paltry 10,000 the Pres had been asking for.
It's just fear mongering. Our immigration system doesn't even work that way. Refugees are more vetted than visitors. I'm hearing the 10.000 are people who have already waited 2 years. Kinda crazy.
"We're not going to let them in" can almost work where I am but I've no idea what Europe is going to try to do. Eeesh. Good luck!

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bluemeanybeany November 17 2015, 21:55:35 UTC
Yeah, it's icky but they found his finger so they know it matches the fingerprints of the bloke they fished out of the water off Greece last month.

The plan needs, and it started today, to take the refugees directly from the camps. To fly them from the Middle East camps so they dont make the dangerous journeys, they arent exploited by human traffickers, and there's no suffering on the way. And it's the UN prioritizing the first evacuations to Britain so it's the most needy - the ones that are victims of torture, the very young children with the mothers, and the extremely poor. At the moment the ones that can possibly reach England under their own impetus are overwhelmingly male, young, healthy and wealthy. Because by the time it gets to us all the weaker, poorer ones cant make it. Sustaining the European people trafficking ring is dangerous and unsustainable and it's a bad use of resources, because it's leaving all the very weak behind. And it's leaving millions of them behind. We're just getting the overspill. All resources [including the US money] should be put towards stabilizing and improving the situation in the Middle East. The Syrians deserve their actual home back, this is to be the main priority and where energy should be directed.

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alton_lust November 17 2015, 22:16:35 UTC
Wow. That's positively /ghastly/ what you describe.
*shudder*

I tend to agree home is best. It's home!

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