Just snickering about the "Great FA Outage"

Dec 02, 2009 08:58

It's really hard to believe that so many people have nothing to do but sit around and complain because a web site is down ( Read more... )

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alaskawolf December 2 2009, 15:48:34 UTC
im just glad im able to get highspeed internet in my area, well at least that's what they want to call it :P

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altivo December 2 2009, 16:16:41 UTC
Maybe, but what does it deliver to you, besides brain-numbing mush? Careful, you could end up like all those furries who are wringing their hands and moaning right now.

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alaskawolf December 2 2009, 16:23:27 UTC
it adds a whole lot to my life, being stuck inside i really have an appreciation for what it offers

brain-numbing mush is all good to me and its just one of the many things i get out of the internet :)

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altivo December 2 2009, 17:11:42 UTC
I think the brain-numbing mush is beneath you.

But that aside, I understand your point. The thing is, I know you wouldn't sit around on your paws moaning because just one particular site went down. You do other things too.

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altivo December 2 2009, 16:15:47 UTC
Ironically, the colo is called IronPath. And yes, it seems they had a single connection, though they claim in their promotions to have complete redundancy. Obviously, false advertising.

Still, my double point is: 1) All these people who can't think of anything to do because a single web site is down? Have their brains turned completely to oatmeal? Maybe the anti-porn anti-furry crusaders are right? and 2) A cable break can happen anywhere. It shouldn't but it does. So what if it affected Amazon or BestBuy? I'll bet it would get a lot more attention, not because of the users who were cut off but because, "OMG! Profits! We're losing pennies!"

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rustitobuck December 3 2009, 06:09:37 UTC
Not only that, but ironpath.com is down and their two nameservers are also on the same /24 network together, and that network is unreachable. So the whole thing is very unprofessionally put together.

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gremy December 2 2009, 16:52:58 UTC
I use DeviantArt, so I'm not much bothered by the FurAffinity outage.

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altivo December 2 2009, 17:09:53 UTC
OK. But if DA went down, would you sit around on your paws rocking and moaning? Or would you get on with your life? It's the reaction, not the web site, that I'm poking fun at.

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gremy December 2 2009, 17:32:55 UTC
I could definitely live without DA for a while, but I wouldn't piss and moan about it in my LJ since I rarely submit stuff there, anyway.

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doco December 2 2009, 17:49:36 UTC
Actually, from the info I have seen, their "ISP" is some sort of malware hosting bogus company that has like a *single* line out to their upstream provider. Nobody in a sane state of mind would consider that link redundant, but I guess with the prices you pay for rack space in the US, they havre to take what they get, esp. With FA hosting porn content.

Internet infrastructure really varies wildly in quality. Over here, the server owners would show up with the panel van at the data centre and say "Hi, give me my servers, oh, and read the fax from my lawyer" over an outage like that. Americans just seem to shrug it off.

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altivo December 2 2009, 19:04:14 UTC
America probably has ten times the number of lawyers per 1000 population that you do. The contract agreements for rack space or internet bandwidth are so long and tied up with so many exceptions and conditions that the countersuits could last for years. A cable cut is "an act of god" and therefore not grounds for breaking the contract of course. Oh, you want to sue? Sue the guy who cut the cable, not us. And by the way, we get to keep your equipment and data until you pay up the balance of your five year contract. Then you can take them.

My suspicion remains that rather than a cable outage it's an unpaid bill. Odd that the service stopped right at the end of the month and very close to 0000Z on Dec. 1. The fact that the colo site didn't return calls or answer their phones for 48 hours certainly makes me thing "What are they really hiding?"

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doco December 2 2009, 22:19:12 UTC
This seems to confirm my suspicions about their upstream's shadiness too:


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altivo December 2 2009, 22:27:03 UTC
Yes and a number of folks have also commented on Hurricane Electric as being a source of all kinds of issues, both with connectivity and hacking/malware.

Seems likely they'll be getting out of there. Probably means an extended outage, but the moaning and groaning should simmer down after a week or so.

Of course, FA is in fact a "porno site" in the eyes of many, so the fact that they are at an unsavory colo isn't all that surprising, now, is it?

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corelog December 2 2009, 19:06:32 UTC
I'd do that last one, if I had them here. :)

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altivo December 2 2009, 19:08:25 UTC
Hmm? Aren't you at work right now? That would be interesting. ;p

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