Now the hard work begins

[altivo]

I admit I'm pleased but surprised at the results of yesterday's election. I've been confident of an Obama win for a while now, but I expected it to be close, perhaps even close enough for the kind of judicial shenanigans we saw eight years ago. I'm glad we won't have to go through that obscenity again, certainly

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[atomicat]

I'm still astounded that anyone could vote for a ticket that had Palin on it. The woman reeks of incompetence. And once again, our Supreme Court legalized gay marriage, nobody gave a shit, really, and our society didn't collapse. In other words... Gay Marriage = Big Fucking Deal

[altivo]

Alas, people have funny definitions of "competence." More often, though, they care only about one or two big issues. McCain's mistake in choosing Palin was apparently that he thought her anti-abortion, pro-gun, evangelical Christian attitudes would fly well. In fact they did, with some people, but those same attitudes plus other issues such as you suggest turned more people away than he gained by putting her on the ticket. He might have done better with Joe Lieberman, who is hard on defense, the military and the war, and could have been used to play out the "we'll keep you more secure" approach that seems to have won it for Bush in 2004. Lieberman wouldn't have done much for him on abortion, guns, or religion, though.

[atomicat]

It's kind of scary to think of what might have happened had he made a better pick. With this bizarre winner-take-all electoral college thing you've got it might have been the tipping-point in enough states to put him in office! Heh, selfish thought... A McCain win might have been good for Canada.... we would have gained a LOT of good intelligent people up here. Immigration to Canada from the US has doubled since 2000, spiked big-time in 2004.

[altivo]

Unfortunately, it's not easy to emigrate to Canada unless you have money, stellar job qualifications, or are pretty young and healthy and happen to speak French. ;p

Believe me, I've looked into it.

[altivo]

The gay marriage thing may still generate some good waves of immigration for you though. If I'd been married in California this year and was now about to be told that my marriage was "null and void" I'd sure be thinking hard about going somewhere that would treat me less rudely.

[atomicat]

Mmm, no it's not that easy to emigrate anymore. You'd be better off as a refugee, status for which we might have granted with another four years of the R's! =:0 I really don't know about being treated better or more politely over the gay thing though. I haven't had to interact with the "real world" for years! Ha! Always been in the freak zone of society so I wouldn't know. I'm sure it's shouted as an insult as much as anywhere else though. Legally and as far as rights are concerned it's certainly more open but on an interpersonal level, well I just don't know.