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Mar 23, 2006 15:18

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allxusedxupx March 25 2006, 15:37:56 UTC
Ok, So, since I'm with him that makes me not have brians? How would that make me without brains, when techniclly, he never cheated on me, he only cheated on Nicole. I didn't like it, but I wasn't going to leave him for that I gave him a second chance, because I felt as if he needed someone to shape him up. Which I have done so.

Funny how you say you can put me right back in my place. You have no idea who your arguing with, do you? Your arguing with a person who will be attending law school in 2 years to be a lawyer to argue for my life time career. Also, your arguing with a person, who was TAUGHT to argue at the age of 1, so if you really want to believe you can put me in my place, try it, the only thing I'm going to do is get under your skin, when nothing you ever says bother me because its all false.

All this does involve me, I just chose to stay out in the beginning, but it seems to me you never go away. I mean your 23, you don't even have your own place that you pay for yourself, and you probably don't have that good of a job, also, you persist to fight with people you call "children" online. Do you have a life? Don't you have somewhere to go? Better things to do? And don't try to throw this back at me, because I am 16, and I don't have much of a life, and probably won't have one until I'm 18 and can drive, and I'm not afraid to admit it, because not many teens have lives, but you, you have no excuse what so ever.

Ok, with BRITNEY, seeing as you don't know how to spell her name yet, I was just sticking up for her, because she was getting irritated by the way you always tryed to make her sound wrong, so i decided to stick up for her, and it was very childish for you to throw Ryan's name in there with a intetion of always trying to make him look bad. Third, why did you complain to Ryan about me? I mean, you say that you can put me in my place then do it. Honestly everything you have ever said to me never affected me, My age does not make me uncomfortable, I am who I am, and I don't care if you don't like me. Not many people can say they like the person that are because some people don't know who they are, and I know exactly who I am, and it does not bother me at all, because I am human, and everything I do is found in human nature, so for you to always use my age against me its because you have nothing more to use.

No I'm not going to see it from your perspective, becuase I tryed to, but it just seems your a tad self centered, and always try to believe you are smarter, and better than everyone esle, and that your always right, and everyone is always wrong. So sorry but no, I'm not going to even try, nor did you put in an effort to try and make me anyhow, because all you did was go on about my age, and call me names.

I'm not making anything about myself, or about anyone esle. I was just really getting angry that you always had something negative to say about Ryan, or you always had some way of trying to prove my sister wrong.

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dncingmalkavian March 28 2006, 14:25:03 UTC
I fail to see where my spelling enters into this, but, okay.

Also, I don't know where you get your information from, but I've lived on my own since I was not much older than you. I do have my own place. I worked my first job when I was twelve, and have mostly steadily ever since I was your age. If you wonder how I have time to do anything, the answer to that is pretty simple - I'm good at time management.

I'm wondering now who's giving you this information. I'm sure I can't persuade you to read my posts, but if you did, you'd know better.

That's commendable that you're planning to go to school for law, but being a lawyer does not necessarily make you good at arguing.

You did make this about yourself, because you took ONE COMMENT to heart and decided to get involved. I made my intentions very clear - to share my perspective, and not to offend or hurt anyone. It made me angry that you seemed to refuse to see that, which, to my mind, marks immaturity.

I didn't have a lot that was negative to say about Ryan. You weren't there for all the times that I praised him.

It is never my intention to prove anyone wrong unless they a. are actually wrong or b. try to prove me wrong. Britney did neither of these things. It was not my intention to prove her wrong in any way - my intention was to see if my perspective could help her any.

I'm not going to throw this back at you. And yes, I have a life, I have friends and interests, I just manage my time well. I choose what I argue about carefully, and as you can see, this was important to me.

I chose to argue because I give a shit. If I didn't care about anything that's happened, I wouldn't have bothered to argue for Nicole, for Ryan, for anyone. It's going to be very difficult to try to make you see that - not because you're a complete idiot, but because many people find it difficult to understand my thought processes. So don't take that personally.

As far as anything I say being false, the reason I win arguments quite often is because I always state what I know (or more often believe) to be true. And, also, I consider very carefully before I adopt something as being true for me, no matter what it is regarding.

I likewise was taught to argue. It is not a question of us competing with each other's abilities here, so we should drop that straightaway.

As for you giving Ryan a second chance...that makes you more forgiving than I. But that's all.

You can think I'm self-centered. That's fine. You don't know me, so you're not particularly in a place to judge my interactions with others. What I can tell you is that no matter who you talk to that knows me, even if they dislike me, they will never tell you that I'm one to turn my back on anyone. A self-centered person would never do that. I can appear to be egocentric, because I know what I am capable of. If that makes me self-centered, well...so be it.

I called you names because you pissed me off. It's hard to piss me off, so I suppose you should be applauded for being able to do so...

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cont. dncingmalkavian March 28 2006, 14:25:51 UTC
...You don't have to see things from my perspective. But, I will say this - I know for a fact that I'm smarter than most people. Not only from an academic standpoint, but from a "been there, done that" standpoint. It doesn't make me better than anyone else. I only believe I'm better than someone when they have no moral fiber whatsoever, and hurt others with no regard for, consideration for, or respect for, other human beings. Seeing as I can't really point out that you are that way, don't make the mistake of thinking that I believe I'm better than you. I might be ahead, seeing as I've had more time to grow, but that doesn't make me better. Before you respond angrily to that, I'd like you to sit and think about what I really mean by that. It is not a condescending statement - it is simply what is.

Your age actually is significant in the way you handle things, regardless of what you think. Even my age is. Someone who is younger does not react to things the same way as someone who is older. The older you get, the more your reactions and your method of handling situations changes. I'm pretty sure that that was a clear statement.

Your method is that you circumvent every point that is made during an argument. My method is one that is very precise, clear, and to the point. So when someone tries to circumvent what I believe to be true, it goes around and around, and no one gets anywhere, because people that employ that method can rarely agree to disagree and leave it at that.

That's why I'll never be a lawyer. :)

I think this about wraps things up, and I hope you understand what I'm saying, now. If you don't, you're less bright than you appear.

Just remember, Brittany, that intelligence can be dangerous if it is not applied with wisdom. And no, I am not threatening you. I'm telling you that someday, it could get you into trouble - so be careful.

Sincerely yours,
TDM

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Re: cont. dncingmalkavian March 28 2006, 19:40:45 UTC
Oh, and one more thing. I have a techie job, so I'm online a lot at work. Just thought I'd let you know that, as well.

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Re: cont. allxusedxupx March 28 2006, 21:03:37 UTC
Ok well, I'm not going to answer this angrily. Becuase I'm not mad, and yes I did take that statment to heart, but I just thought you were always trying to prove her wrong. And I'm used to people telling me it was trying to show it from thier perspective, and really just trying to be an asshole in general. So maybe I did take it a little over board, but you did take it alittle over board to start calling me names. I mean I can understand you were mad, but name calling, sorry to say but that is very childish. Yeah I figured I did piss you off, because I'm good at pushing the right buttons and getting under peoples skin. I guess it was my intention to piss you off, even though it wasn't very mature of me, I was pissed myself, and I guess I just wanted to give you pay back for something I did take a bit out of hands.

And no I don't read your post's, I did that one time because I had a feeling I was in a post of yours, but I usualy don't go around reading your post's because I just don't see that its my place to go. No I don't think i had ever seen you praise Ryan, and it just pisses me off when people have nagative things to say about him, because I'm very deffensive, and he is doing alot better for him self right now, like he has a stable job and hes been a very honest person after I asked him to be bluntly honest no matter how bad it hurts, because everyone does need to know the truth and lieing just digs a hole and makes people more angry when they hear the truth from a total stranger. Also building a very good very stable relationship with his brother and Britney. But he has been doing alot of good, and thats why I had been so deffensive when people have something negative to say, because I don't like people sayign things when they don't know wats going on, I mean I'm not calling you oblivious, but I'm sure you haven't talked to Ryan in awhile, so you wouldn't know that he has changed ALOT. Even Evan and Britney can see it.

Just because I gave Ryan a second chance doesn't mean I'm a forgive and forget person, because I do hold grudges, and I held that against him for the fist month and a half that we were together, but I did figure he needed a second chance seeing as I was also dating someone when me and him started dating, I didn't tell him right away because I thought it would make matter worse, but I also didnt do it in the same sence as he did. I never talked to the kid for 3 weeks, never had sex with him ever, when I had dated him on and off for 3 years. And I didn't go behind his back talking to this kid trying to keep the relationship up with him, because when he did finally called me I told him that I was with someone else and I didn't want to be with him anymore, it was also one of those childish relationships. I know I don't have to explain myself to you, but I just want to get the point across that I did to the same thing, but just not as extreme. But it was a reason why I was able to forgive him easier.

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cont. allxusedxupx March 28 2006, 21:03:53 UTC
I can see where you say age matter, but so does experience. I have been threw alot of rough shit in me life, and that what makes me a more mature person, I had to take care of my brother and father at the age of 11, I had no mother, because she was also at work or at school, so when I was 5 I had to cook, clean, and take care of my father everytime his back went out, or he got sick. I'm not asking you to pitty me, I'm just telling you that I have been threw alot, and that's what makes me more mature than the average 16 year old. I know when to be mature, and I know when to be immature. I balance it out, because everyone does have to be a little immature in some places, or else you don't have much fun, well atleast thats how I see it. But I had to be liek an adult at a very young age, so I do think that I am more mature than some people are at my age. I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone, because I'm not. No one is better than anyone, everyone has thier differences, and diversity. But I don't think its right of you to hold my age against me, because thats just like rasicm.

And yes, I do want to be a lawyer, I do want to be other things other than that, I have to many goal's on what I want to do for the rest of my life, but thats not a problem, I still have time to think about it. But I do have very good qualities to be a lawyer, because I can keep an argument going, and still have alot to say to get my point across. Also, I was raised from my great aunt to be very argumentative, and she used to teach me how to argue so good, that she couldn't win against me anymore. I'm not saying I'm always out to win, because I know when I'm wrong and I can own up to it. But next time you do have something from your perspective to say, just be sure to make it clear that your only saying it the way you see it instead of trying to make it seem that your trying to make them look like an asshole. Don't take that comment to heart, I'm just saying so that you don't have to go threw this with another person who might not be as nice I am. I guess you may think that I'm not a nice person, but I say things I don't mean out of agner, its a flaw of mine, but its also what makes me different. I'm sure you know that not everyone is same, and not everyone is going to see things your way, so just try and make it alittle more clear, for other people to understand where your coming from. Don't take this in a bad way, take it as contrutive critism. If I have misspelles words, its really not my fault, because I am dislexic, so I'm not able to spell as good as others, and I have a problem of reading over things.

-Britt

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