I'd settle for the East Bay, but I really want to try and live in SF proper. Even though it's more expensive, I feel like I'd have way more fun and save money in other ways, as the city seems more compact and minimum wage is higher. I work at a worker-owned food co-op now, and want to try and work at Rainbow Grocery or Other Avenues or something.
Who is your friend in Baltimore? I lived there for eight months when I first moved to the east coast, but have lived right outside of DC since January. The main things keeping me here right now are my $80 rent and the fact that my job pays $10.50 an hour and I volunteer for food instead of paying cash, which allowed me to spend two months this summer traveling and will let me take a couple of trips in the fall as well as save up to move back to the better coast.
I figured WWC getting "cleaned up" at some point was inevitable, I remember reading something about that third street line back in 2005, but it still sucks that it's happening and especially before I'll have lived in the city. Now that Burnt Ramen is also having way less shows, have any new venues popped up to replace the old ones?
"The main things keeping me here right now are my $80 rent and the fact that my job pays $10.50 an hour and I volunteer for food instead of paying cash" That depresses me. Life would be so much better if that were the living conditions here.
Neil Aviles is my friend's name. I don't know, he may have moved out here around the time you moved there.
No new venues have really popped up. Bands typically play at bars or Gilman. The occasional house show, and even less frequent are the shows at Burnt Ramen. We are in desperate need of another all ages venue, that is less strict than Gilman, because it really scares people off. I, sadly, have a lot of friends who consider drinking a very essential part of going to shows, and refuse to go to Gilman since they will be hassled even in their cars down the street.
It's definitely easy and I actually do feel a little guilty, but it's in no way worth staying in an area that is OK but not really what I want. I live in a storage closet that is big enough for my stuff, and the rest of the rooms in my house (six of them) are $240 each, but the number of other people in the DC area I know who even pay under $400 I can count on one hand.
I've been hearing about more generator shows at places like the Albany landfill, some gazebo, a bus, and I think there was one at ocean beach off of Judah in the wee hours of Sunday morning. Gilman is amazing for what it is, and I completely understand why their rules are in place, but shows there are definitely more subdued compared to others I've been to in the Bay Area, which to me has just as much to do with the vibe that simply comes with there being other rules like "no stagediving" and knowing you're being watched by security. When I was out there, I saw the Magrudergrind/I Object/Acts of Sedition show at Gilman, and wish I could've seen the one at HazMat the next night and compared the crowds, though I did see another show there while I was in town.
Yeah, I totally understand the rules of Gilman, and why they are there... because when you look at it, Gilman is the only real, lasting venue. It's essential to keep it open. But people are being watched there, and it makes it feel less like a peer run location, and back to someone in charge.
I was definitely at that show. And also, went to a different show in Santa Cruz the following day instead of going to the Hazmat. What show did you see at the Hazmat?
I also heard of the Ocean Beach show, but I was pretty sick. I didn't know who was playing but it would have been a fun spur of the moment deal had I not been puking.
Who is your friend in Baltimore?
I lived there for eight months when I first moved to the east coast, but have lived right outside of DC since January. The main things keeping me here right now are my $80 rent and the fact that my job pays $10.50 an hour and I volunteer for food instead of paying cash, which allowed me to spend two months this summer traveling and will let me take a couple of trips in the fall as well as save up to move back to the better coast.
I figured WWC getting "cleaned up" at some point was inevitable, I remember reading something about that third street line back in 2005, but it still sucks that it's happening and especially before I'll have lived in the city.
Now that Burnt Ramen is also having way less shows, have any new venues popped up to replace the old ones?
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That depresses me. Life would be so much better if that were the living conditions here.
Neil Aviles is my friend's name. I don't know, he may have moved out here around the time you moved there.
No new venues have really popped up. Bands typically play at bars or Gilman. The occasional house show, and even less frequent are the shows at Burnt Ramen. We are in desperate need of another all ages venue, that is less strict than Gilman, because it really scares people off. I, sadly, have a lot of friends who consider drinking a very essential part of going to shows, and refuse to go to Gilman since they will be hassled even in their cars down the street.
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I've been hearing about more generator shows at places like the Albany landfill, some gazebo, a bus, and I think there was one at ocean beach off of Judah in the wee hours of Sunday morning. Gilman is amazing for what it is, and I completely understand why their rules are in place, but shows there are definitely more subdued compared to others I've been to in the Bay Area, which to me has just as much to do with the vibe that simply comes with there being other rules like "no stagediving" and knowing you're being watched by security. When I was out there, I saw the Magrudergrind/I Object/Acts of Sedition show at Gilman, and wish I could've seen the one at HazMat the next night and compared the crowds, though I did see another show there while I was in town.
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I was definitely at that show. And also, went to a different show in Santa Cruz the following day instead of going to the Hazmat. What show did you see at the Hazmat?
I also heard of the Ocean Beach show, but I was pretty sick. I didn't know who was playing but it would have been a fun spur of the moment deal had I not been puking.
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