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Jan 14, 2006 11:24

had a talk with Mr. B after school yesterday about Judaism. i'm thinking about converting ( Read more... )

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ummm... wickedlilwitch5 January 16 2006, 02:58:04 UTC
you're strange........you realize you won't believe in Jesus anymore and a lot of other things too- but i'm gonna try to look at zee bright side atleast you can celebrate lots of different holidays and eat potatopamcakes (i spelt that wrong perposly-Hehe). o well do whatever you want to do. I still heart you!

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allhailthebaker January 16 2006, 05:11:45 UTC
well, for the most part (and someone PLEASE correct me if i'm way wrong on this lol) its jesus, which i didnt really believe in in the first place, and hell, which i also was skeptical of.

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born_4the_stage January 16 2006, 17:42:24 UTC
there are historical accounts of jesus performing miracles and the like. and three women brought back the news of his rebirth. i think i'd trust the word of three women over a bunch of men who just want to keep their jobs and money. he's kind of like a big human phoenix to me. who loves everyone. which i think is cool. cause i could never do that. but, still. jesus did exist. even jewish historians and accounts from jewish citizens and hihg ranking officials agree that he existed and he did work miracles. they just don't think he was god's son.
if you want to get into a debate with me about theological facts and philosophy, you're probably gonna lose, cause i've got four and half years of religious education to back me (and not just on catholicism, which i've always been cynical about anyway).

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allhailthebaker January 17 2006, 01:46:49 UTC
ok, i said that wrong. let me rephrase it. i am sure he existed, but whether or not he was god's son is questionable to me.

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born_4the_stage January 17 2006, 20:37:03 UTC
care to explain your reasons for that? i love a good debate.

there's flaws in every religion and their explanations for things. so i may just quit believing in organized religion altogether sometime soon.

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allhailthebaker January 18 2006, 01:47:13 UTC
mostly because there's no solid evidence (that i know of) to convince me that hes not just a really good magician who was a little insane.

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born_4the_stage January 18 2006, 02:01:02 UTC
so you're more inclined to believe a bunch of officials who just wanted to keep their jobs and their good salaries over three women who were like family to him(one of them his mother) ?

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born_4the_stage January 16 2006, 17:44:54 UTC
and judaism doesn't say it doesn't believe in jesus. it just says it believese that jesus was a fake.

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born_4the_stage January 16 2006, 17:49:36 UTC
if it really makes you happy, i'm not gonna kill it. but i do intend to make you step back and think.
conversion is not a quick process. even people who've been raised catholic have to go through this long confirmation process and it's a pain in the ass.
any type of conversion in ano organized religion generally takes a long time. and it depends on how devout you want to be. every religion has its restrictions, rules, etc.
i know it might seem a little bit presumptuous, but i'm not 100% sure you'd be quite as interested in judaism if, well, if someone we know wasn't jewish.
might that have just the slightest bit to do with it?
just don't do it for the wrong reasons if you do.

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allhailthebaker January 17 2006, 01:49:00 UTC
i know it takes a long time. mr. b explained the whole process.
and it doesnt have much at all to do with it. it used to, but it doesnt matter nemore. lol. seriously. its, like, .1%

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