Dollhouse 2x04
Between this and "Epitaph One," I'm really falling in love with Adelle.
Sarah Jane Adventures 3x04
So, has anyone written K-9/Mr. Smith yet?
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If the task is to try and construct an ethic by which the one action is okay but the other isn't (and I do think the latter is worse and not morally equivalent at all even if I think both are too morally problematic to undertake), then we're on much less firm ground: well, then, Topher got as much consent from Priya as, to his and to his Adelle's knowledge at that point, she was able to give, and would ever be able to give (at least without a level of intervention that only Topher would be able to provide?). Insane!Priya was who Priya wasWhile you and I would not consider that sufficient to justify making her an active ( ... )
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If Topher can make it so that Sierra doesn't suffer from paranoia (which we don't really know that he can, since Priya didn't really), then he should be able to manufacture a paranoia-less facsimile of Priya (whether that would "really" be Priya could be up for debate), I think.
Agreed that forever keeping Priya in a box would be murder, at least under the assumption that the Dollhouse works the way it's supposed to (which of course it doesn't, but Topher and Adelle don't know that).
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And I suppose that the last possibility is that Adelle just doesn't see insane!Priya as a person, anymore than she sees Sierra as a person. Although at some point ("Epitaph One," probably) I remember Adelle invoking talk of souls, and if souls exist it'd be hard to claim the insane don't have them.
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It's an abhorrent world view, but it doesn't strike me as obviously incoherent. But I agree that as an explanation, it still doesn't feel to fit Adelle very well. It seems much more likely that she sees insane!Priya as having given sufficient consent prior to understanding how that consent was coerced.
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I do think there'd be some question as to whether, if Topher imprinted a truly mentally ill Priya with a manufactured version of herself sans that illness, whether that personality would count as an ensouled person are just be equivalent to another imprint. That'd be on top of the question of how meaningful consent could be when gotten out of an imprint that was, in part, manufactured by Topher in the first place ( ... )
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Otherwise, I'm not sure we're getting anywhere. I'm sticking with my original, "Adelle thinks stalker's behavior is worse than hers because he's getting something out of it." And maybe also because he conned her into doing something to Priya that she wouldn't have done to a healthy person, and Adelle doesn't like being conned. But as far as turning someone into an active without their consent, the actions are identical.
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I really can't fathom how your own privilege could have anything to do with how you perceive the act of forcing a mentally ill woman's body into sexual slavery, but I guess I'm not intellectual enough.
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