The Chief storyline worked for me and I really felt for him. He's obviously been feeling unhappy for a long time (remember the vicious fights he and Cally were having last season) and the revelation that he's a Cylon coupled with Cally's death is really bring everything to the surface in a really chaotic way. Poor Chief. In regards to his unhappiness with his marriage, I keep going back to that scene in the bar with Lee during 'Taking a Break from All Your Worries' in season three when Lee asks him if he ever thinks about Sharon. He pauses before he responds and says no very decisively. It's very clear that he doesn't think about Sharon because he doesn't let himself -- it's a bad road he knows he won't come back from. I dunno. The whole freak out with Papa just fit perfectly for me.
It's all very sad and tragic and I'm a bit fearful of how Chief's storyline is going to be resolved. Definitely. I think he was having a spinning out of control, powerless to stop where it was going moment, possible whole existence. *hugs the Chief*
I don't think it means she's forgiven him for his role in Baltar's trial or for his recent behavior but I think it does mean that she recognizes why he's doing what he's doing and respects him for it. And am I way off base thinking that they're setting Lee up to take over for Roslin when she dies/steps down? No, Roslin will never forgive him, but she understands and respects his reasons. She wishes she had the luxury to be like him. She'll still be at odds with him, but she knows he's doing what he's doing for the right reasons. And yeah, I really think they are setting him up to take her place. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.
I still don't think the writers know exactly what they're doing with Tori anymore I really hope they have a plan. But yeah, it seems to all be explained away by Cylon empowerment.
while BSG always had a religious subtext and it played a major role with a lot of the characters I never felt it was shoved down our throats like now. It just feels like they're overplaying their hand. I actually like that they are dealing with it a little more overtly, a little more openly now. A lot of the subtle religious stuff was restricted to Baltar for so long, I like that more people are getting to get in on it. I find it fascinating.
Hey, better late than never. Sorry for the rambling, I didn't do my own wrap-up so unlucky you gets the brunt of it. Hahaha, and thanks. I love rambling, so I say bring it on. I'm very glad you chose my journal to do it in. :D
And yeah, I really think they are setting him up to take her place. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.
If done correctly it could work. My fear is that it'll be too idealistic, too happily-ever-after. If they muck Lee up a little more, perhaps make him lose some of his rose-colored glassness it could work.
I actually like that they are dealing with it a little more overtly, a little more openly now. A lot of the subtle religious stuff was restricted to Baltar for so long, I like that more people are getting to get in on it. I find it fascinating.
I don't think it was really subtle with Roslin, I just don't think it was shoved down our throats. I don't know, it's very possible it's me and my own religious (or lack thereof) views. This is the one area of the show that I'm having trouble really articulating why I'm not loving it. Hopefully with time and progression I'll get more behind it.
If they muck Lee up a little more, perhaps make him lose some of his rose-colored glassness it could work. That's what I'm counting on, and that's what I think was happening with his watching of Balter's speech -- he was seeing how wrong he was and maybe losing some of his naivete.
I don't think it was really subtle with Roslin, I just don't think it was shoved down our throats. No, I guess it wasn't subtle with Roslin, but it felt different to me maybe because it was so accepted and mainstream in their culture. I'm not explaining myself very well either. :) I actually really liked the Roslin prophecy and Pythia stuff but I also felt like it was the hokiest thing on the show, the thing most likely to induce eye rolling. I just don't feel like that with the Baltar/Jesus stuff. I dunno. *shrugs*
Dude, tonight was insane. I have no idea what to think about it yet. :)
Dude, tonight was insane. I have no idea what to think about it yet. :)
Totally. I'm watching the midnight rerun right now and I'm just like...ummm, what? I almost feel like I'm being left behind I'm so befuddled right now. Did I get stupid in the last few hours or something that it's not coming together for me. It's going to take me a bit to unravel this one because there's a lot of questions/issue I'm raising right now. I'll tell you this though, Helo owned this episode and I'm more in love with him than ever.
Poor Chief. In regards to his unhappiness with his marriage, I keep going back to that scene in the bar with Lee during 'Taking a Break from All Your Worries' in season three when Lee asks him if he ever thinks about Sharon. He pauses before he responds and says no very decisively. It's very clear that he doesn't think about Sharon because he doesn't let himself -- it's a bad road he knows he won't come back from. I dunno. The whole freak out with Papa just fit perfectly for me.
It's all very sad and tragic and I'm a bit fearful of how Chief's storyline is going to be resolved.
Definitely. I think he was having a spinning out of control, powerless to stop where it was going moment, possible whole existence. *hugs the Chief*
I don't think it means she's forgiven him for his role in Baltar's trial or for his recent behavior but I think it does mean that she recognizes why he's doing what he's doing and respects him for it. And am I way off base thinking that they're setting Lee up to take over for Roslin when she dies/steps down?
No, Roslin will never forgive him, but she understands and respects his reasons. She wishes she had the luxury to be like him. She'll still be at odds with him, but she knows he's doing what he's doing for the right reasons. And yeah, I really think they are setting him up to take her place. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.
I still don't think the writers know exactly what they're doing with Tori anymore
I really hope they have a plan. But yeah, it seems to all be explained away by Cylon empowerment.
while BSG always had a religious subtext and it played a major role with a lot of the characters I never felt it was shoved down our throats like now. It just feels like they're overplaying their hand.
I actually like that they are dealing with it a little more overtly, a little more openly now. A lot of the subtle religious stuff was restricted to Baltar for so long, I like that more people are getting to get in on it. I find it fascinating.
Hey, better late than never. Sorry for the rambling, I didn't do my own wrap-up so unlucky you gets the brunt of it.
Hahaha, and thanks. I love rambling, so I say bring it on. I'm very glad you chose my journal to do it in. :D
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If done correctly it could work. My fear is that it'll be too idealistic, too happily-ever-after. If they muck Lee up a little more, perhaps make him lose some of his rose-colored glassness it could work.
I actually like that they are dealing with it a little more overtly, a little more openly now. A lot of the subtle religious stuff was restricted to Baltar for so long, I like that more people are getting to get in on it. I find it fascinating.
I don't think it was really subtle with Roslin, I just don't think it was shoved down our throats. I don't know, it's very possible it's me and my own religious (or lack thereof) views. This is the one area of the show that I'm having trouble really articulating why I'm not loving it. Hopefully with time and progression I'll get more behind it.
YEAH tonight!!!
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That's what I'm counting on, and that's what I think was happening with his watching of Balter's speech -- he was seeing how wrong he was and maybe losing some of his naivete.
I don't think it was really subtle with Roslin, I just don't think it was shoved down our throats.
No, I guess it wasn't subtle with Roslin, but it felt different to me maybe because it was so accepted and mainstream in their culture. I'm not explaining myself very well either. :) I actually really liked the Roslin prophecy and Pythia stuff but I also felt like it was the hokiest thing on the show, the thing most likely to induce eye rolling. I just don't feel like that with the Baltar/Jesus stuff. I dunno. *shrugs*
Dude, tonight was insane. I have no idea what to think about it yet. :)
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Totally. I'm watching the midnight rerun right now and I'm just like...ummm, what? I almost feel like I'm being left behind I'm so befuddled right now. Did I get stupid in the last few hours or something that it's not coming together for me. It's going to take me a bit to unravel this one because there's a lot of questions/issue I'm raising right now. I'll tell you this though, Helo owned this episode and I'm more in love with him than ever.
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