Highlander Rewatched Interview with Clay Borris! Part 2!
33:03 Clay: Well it's not that... we could do stuff here just as good, it's just that we never have the budget. *Keith mms* You know? It's just that in the States, I mean it's like, I mean, I can't talk for other people. I mean it's, just like, you know when you do a Canadian TV show, you know you get a third of the money that an American TV show gets, for instance. We compete a lot against that kind of stuff. But anyway, like I said, I moved to the States because, I couldn't get work over here, so I went there; I got Quiet Cool made, and then uh... started my career. Then and, the funny thing is I end up working in Canada! Only, practically! Which is the weird thing. I had to move to the States to start my career, come back to Canada to work. Cuz you know, I lived in L.A. for five years, right? My wife and I broke up, so I moved back here to Toronto, and then I met somebody here. And then you know, I ended up staying here. I didn't think I was going to stay in Toronto, but all of a sudden I got into TV, and then you know, then I meet Ken Gord, "You know, you wanna go to fucking Israel, to do Sweating Bullets?" I'm like "Israel? Holy Fuck!" So you know for a Cabbagetown kid to be all of a sudden in Israel; trust me. It fucking blew my mind, couldn't believe it. And again uh, you know, the thing that Ken uh, Sweating Bullets, was luck, man. You have to move fast in that show. Shooting so many pages a day, it was unreal!
33:11 Clay: But anyway, I got off-track there. Shooting in Canada is, is... it's just different. I mean, a lot of the American films are shot here in Toronto, don't forget right? *Keith: Right.* Cuz, you know the crews are really good here, and everything. It's all about money and budgets.
Kyle: Any stories saved up from your time in Cabbagetown that you still wanted to tell, and didn't quite have the chance?
Keith: You've got stories... we wanna hear them! Cuz--
33:31 Clay: The one time in my I wish I would've been American was after I finished uh, Alligator Shoes. Because, if I would've been from the States, and I did Alligator Shoes, it'd be like Scorsese dong Mean Streets, you know? Everybody went "Fuck, man! This guy's got talent!" Well, when I did Alligator Shoes, everybody went "Hey wow, this guy's got talent!" but nobody came forward and gave me money. As a matter of fact, I met a big producer, I won't mention the name, at a party in Toronto--cuz my film, out of English Canada, was the only film that was chosen, that year in '81. And this guy comes to me, he said: "You and your STUPID fuckin' movie! You put Canada back ten years with your fuckin' low-budget shit fuckin' movie!"
Keith and Kyle: WHOA! *laughing*
Eamon: Whaaaaat?!
Kyle: That's messed up!
Eamon: That's bonkers!
34:11 Clay: Yeah. And uh, When he--I said, "What the fuck are you talking about?" The guy from France that picked my film, he said "This is the most interesting film that I've seen out of English Canada in years!" Because everybody's imitating Hollywood, right? So they got all these movies they make, and they wanna go to Cannes. So when I got picked, man, I didn't realize how pissed off people were gonna be, so I got... That's why I think I wasn't getting work. Cuz everybody... You know, cuz I wanted to make these independent films about... street life and uh... You know like Scorsese, doing films about people like in Little Italy. Well, I was doing films in Cabbagetown. Yeah, about Cabbagetown people, because I was French Canadian growing up there was uh, pretty hard. You know, there was a whole French neighborhood, and I... I went to a French school. As a matter of fact, just off the cuff here, when I first came to Toronto, I didn't speak any English, right? Totally French. So I had to learn how to speak English, and I got into a lot of fights on the streets and that kind of shit because of my accent.
Keith: Wow!
35:06 Clay: Cuz I used to say "I TINK so", and "Tank you." And I taught myself how to say I "think", "thank", and now, when I got older I am angry at myself that I had to lose my accent, you know? It's so fucking ridiculous! But otherwise I'd get in fights every day of the week. *Keith: Wow!* When you live with that kind of stuff.... I've had guys chase me in my house, and my mother take a knife out fuckin' threaten to kill 'em.
Eamon: Oh my God.
Keith: Jesus!
35:29 Clay: She was really tough! *laughs* That's I--So, that's why I made that film "Rose's House." And my mother couldn't read or write, and so we made the... we made most of the scenes up as we went along and, the thing that kills me is we got nominated for Best Screenplay-- *laughter*
Kyle: On an improved movie?
Clay: --and uh, you know we had an outline for a script, but there was no written dialogue. I say, "Okay Mom, talk about this." And then in the scene she'd talk about it. Right? I mean, that's how they did it. Anyway, those are the kind of films that I wanted to keep making, and Alligator Shoes was my next step; it was my first feature, and uh... It was based on my experiences with my brother and everything. And so I thought my next one was gonna be about Cabbagetown. They were ALL gonna be about Cabbagetown.
36:14 Clay: But I got sidetracked, as I said, had to move to Hollywood, to really start my career, so... Even with the Cannes Film Festival, uh... You know, it got me an agent--As a matter of fact, here's another story you might like! You know Norman Jewison, right?
Eamon: *uncertainly* I don't... think so...
Kyle: I don't think so.
Keith: No...
Kyle: I don't think so.
36:27 Clay: You don't know Norman Jewison?
Keith: Uh-oh! We have homework to do!
Kyle: Yeah! Drop some knowledge on us!
36:30 Clay: Oh, you know... "In the Heat of the Night".
Keith: Oh yeah!
Eamon: Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah!
36:35 Clay: Yeah. Norman Jewison. Anyway, *laughing* he... *Keith laughs* I was sitting in his office in Toronto one day... We're talking about agents and he said, "You don't have an agent?" I said, "No." He said, "Well, fuck this!" He got on the phone and he called up Willian Morris, in New York, he says, "Hey listen! I got this young kid here, this young guy, he just came back from the Cannes Film Festival, he needs an agent. You guys wanna take him on?" And he's got his script he's trying to fuck--to take. I mean, Norman Jewison's calling up. And they go "Yeah!" So I went to New York, met this guy, so I got taken on by the William Morris Agency! *Keith: Wow!* Yeah! I'd never had an agent before that, ever! I didn't even know what an agent did! And, uh, so...! *laughing* So when I went to L.A., at least I had an agent! And they helped me get--
Kyle: Did they help you land any... any of the, the gigs that you've described for us? Did they come through that agency, or...?
37:17 Clay: Well they... they helped me get Quiet Cool off the ground, cuz they found the producer. You know, which was New Line Cinema, right? That was their first film outside, you know, the horror genre. You know? It was their first action film.
Keith: Huh! I didn't know that. That's interesting!
37:29 Clay: Yeah, yeah. So I had to go the whole--through the whole thing at The Chateau Marmont Hotel there, trying to decide whether they're gonna hire me as a director or not, so I sweated bullets for a few hours there, while they all went in a room and uh, came out and they said "Okay, kid, you got it." Probably the happiest day of my fucking life, I'll tell ya! *Keith laughs*
Kyle: You were sweating bullets. *Clay: Pardon?* Was that, was that inspiration for when you did the show Sweating Bullets?
37:49 Clay: Yeah, yeah! *laughter* Anyway, that's... that's what happened. I got away from doing the kind of films that I wanted to make, started doing Hollywood stuff, then I got into fuckin' TV, 'n... I'd never meant to go that way, but all of a sudden, you know, you got a mortgage to pay, you got kids to feed, you gotta... you know, your life changes. Y'know, you can't just be this artist living on Canada Council grants, you know.
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39:35 Keith: Can you tell us about maybe, some of your more recent projects? Like, I know you did an independent film called "X Wins" recently.
39:40 Clay: That was a... very low-budget, because I, I wrote the script. I wanted to do something where I could shoot it real fast and see... You can't shoot any faster than in the woods, *laughter* you know, because everything looks the same. It's a chase-movie, and I made the girl a deaf-mute, so there's no talking. *laughter*
Kyle: I can see how that moves it along!
Eamon: Yeah!
40:00 Clay: We shot it in seven days!
Kyle: *laughs* Not bad!
40:03 Clay: And um, you know... we had two or three cameras and, you know, it doesn't look too bad. It's like a... it's like a "C" movie. Y'know? *laughter* Really low--really low budget. I did it that way on purpose, cuz I knew that's the only way I could do it. And then I did a short film--I went back to doing a shor--I did a short film about a young blind woman, who by chance becomes a world-famous photographer. You got that?
Kyle: Yeah! How does that--How does that happen?
40:29 Clay: *laughing* It turned out really good! It's like six and a half minutes long. It's a really good little film. I'm really proud of it. Otherwise, I haven't really done anything, uh... Done... I'm not really pursuing anything anymore uh... You know what I mean? I'm out of the game at this point.
Keith: Right.
Kyle: So whaddya do when uh, you're not working on one of these projects you've told us about? What are you uh... How do you keep busy these days?
40:49 Clay: Well I'm trying to work on scripts all the time. But, you know... basically I go to the gym, uh... that kind of stuff. I mean uh... go to the cottage a lot or whatever. Yeah, back to Highlander.
Keith: If you--*laughing*
Kyle: We have this problem when we're just talking about an episode.
Keith: *laughs* Yeah!
Kyle: Like, someone will mention a, a kind of snack food, and we'll spend twenty minutes on that, so... *Keith laughs* You know. *Clay laughs* You nee--we need like a, a dog to cut to when we're rapping some bullshit. *laughter*
Clay: Oh, okay.
Keith: Uh, I was gonna ask--
Clay: Alright go--
Keith: Um...
41:16 Clay: Yeah there's lots of Highlander stories, I just have to be reminded. So let's go back to Highlander. Just--
Keith: Yea, well I was gonna ask, if there was an opportunity to tell a Highlander story, like a Clay Borris Highlander story, what would the story that you'd wanna tell be?
41:28 Clay: Well, the one about going to France and all that is kind of the story that, you know, I never forgot. But uh... well, you know, you guys are talking to Ken Gord and other people and all that stuff about directors on the show, and uh... Besides Ken, I don't think anybody really appreciated the fact that I doing their shows so fast. You know, I was given those shows... I didn't have a choice, right? This is your episode. I mean, what're you gonna say? No, I don't want it?
Keith: Right.
41:52 Clay: I mean it doesn't work like that, right? I remember I think I heard... David Abramowitz, is that his name?
Keith and Kyle: Yeah.
41:58 Clay: Yeah, he said something about... one of the worse episodes, and I think he mentioned The Zone...
Keith: Yeah, that's a notorious uh, episode, I think, with some people.
42:05 Clay: Yeah, it is. But you shoulda read the fuckin' script. *laughter* The script wa--the script was even WORSE! *Keith laughs*
Kyle: I have no trouble believing that.
42:14 Clay: And I didn't--I couldn--I couldn't believe they were doing that script! I couldn't believe it. I'm like, "Are you kidding me?!" And Ken says, "I'm sorry Clay, but you know this--you gotta do this one." *Rewatchers chuckle* And I'm like, "Aw, MAN!" And uh...
Eamon: Did they pick you because of your short film?
42:25 Clay: You know, can't you at least--I said, "Can't you at least put a Quickening in it?! Fuck face!" I mean you know, it takes place in this weird fucking place 'n, you know, it's the one I hear some of you say, it's one of the worst episodes, but you know it's like, you know, it's just not fair to ME. It, it... it just really bugs me, that I heard that, you know? Um...
Keith: Wow...!
42:43 Clay: What about the episodes that people loved that I did a really good job on, you know? You never hear from these guys. I think I heard from Abramowitz... I think I heard from him ONCE, that he liked something or whatever. You know, when Ken went to do uh... Queen of Swords? Well David Abramowitz was part of that somehow, right? I think he was one of the writers.
Eamon: Uh-huh.
Keith: Yeah, I think he was one of the producers, or one of the creative people on it. Yeah.
43:04 Clay: Yeah. Well, okay, well... Ken had my name down, as one of the directors, right? And Abramowitz came in and crossed my name out.
Kyle: Oh my! I did not know that!
43:13 Clay: And I said--And that's what I said! I said "What the?! What? What?! WHY? Whaddya mean? I sacrificed all those fuckin' six day shows, working like a fuckin' dog! Whaddya mean my name is off?" He said, "I don't know why!" I was fucking taken off the list! I couldn't believe it!
Keith: Ooof!
43:28 Clay: And, you know, and I'm a Western freak, too! And Ken knows that, and that's why I had the episode with the background with the Western and everything. You know, I'm taken off the list!! And I'm going, "Okay. I guess they appreciated me on the show, huh?" Because you'd think they're doing a new TV show: "Hey, let's bring in Clay Borris. That kid did us a lot of favors, man! He did all those shitty shows that nobody else could do!" But NO! I was so angry, when Ken told me that, I couldn't believe it.
Kyle: Well that's--
Keith: I know Ken had nothing but good things to say about your work on the show. Uh...
43:57 Clay: No no no! Ken's got nothing against me at all!
Keith: Oh no, I-I-I--
Kyle: Yeah, yeah. Even when he talked to US he brought it up.
44:02 Clay: I was taken off the list, that's all. I mean... WHY was I taken off the list? That should have been payback. "We know Clay loves Westerns! Let's give him a, a nice gift here! Let's let him... do a couple of episodes." You know, whatever. But to be taken off the list?
Kyle: Oof.
44:19 Clay: That's what I mean. So you, you end up thinking, well, you know, the producers didn't really appreciate me at all, did they? ... I'm sounding bitter. I don't wanna sou--I don't want to sound bitter. *quiet laughter* But anyway...
Kyle: Oh! Oh, I'm just curious. Like an episode like The Zone, since we were just talking about, what were some uh, things that you brought to that script, to try to... breathe some life into it?
44:36 Clay: The changes I made are probably, uh... I probably cut stuff to make it shorter, I... I try to move the camera as much as I can... One of the things I remember that we did: the uh... the guy who plays the main guy... The guy, that the actor that played the part...
Keith: Uh-huh?
Clay: He was like, he was playing him too slow, like. He was trying to do a De Niro or something. And I kept telling him, said "Look, you can't play it like this. This is a TV show. You gotta talk fucking faster!" *laughter* "Fuck, man. You're not James Stewart. You can't fuckin' sit there going 'nya nya nya.' Nobody wants to hear that shit from YOU!" *laughter* *Kyle: D--* And so--And then I talked to Ken I said, "This guy just won't fuckin' LISTEN, man!" And I got really pissed off at this actor. Anyway, you know what we did? Ken said, "I'll fix that fuckin' guy!" We hired another actor to do his voice and talk five times faster. *laughter* So--
Kyle: That's amazing!
45:27 Clay: So, in the episode of The Zone: It's not the original actor's voice!
Kyle: That's incredible! Hahah!
Keith: Yeah!
45:32 Clay: No, isn't that amazing? We re-dubbed his whole fucking episode. *laughter* Fuck him. You don't wanna do it our way? Fuck you!
Eamon: Then it's the highway! *Keith: Wow!*
45:39 Clay: *laughing* You know what I mean? So, uh... so that was one thing that happened I remember. Ken said "Don't worry. We'll fix it in post." *all laugh together* I used to hear that all the time. "We'll fix it in post!" Alright!
Kyle: Do you have any other stories like that of uh, kind of these creative fixes on, on the set, or these, just kind of like, wild shooting stories? It sounds like you've got a, a lot stored up!
46:03 Clay: I can tell you a story that's kind of interesting. Um... I was doing The Gunfighters. And uh... I was sitting on a horse, and I was directing George Kennedy. I'm standing there, looking at him. In those days, you know your phone was that big, fucking thing there? The big phone?
Keith and Kyle: Yeah.
Eamon: With like the antenna or something on it?
46:20 Clay: Yeah. So, my AD uh, my AD all of a sudden or, my assistant all of a sudden he says, "Clay!" He says, "Your wife wants to talk to you on the phone!" And I says "Right now?" He goes, "Yeah. She says it's important." So... I pick up the phone, and I'm sitting on a horse, right? And she's in L.A. She, the first thing she says to me, she says, "First of all, get off your high horse!" *laughter* I'm, I'm like: What the fuck?! I look around, is she here?! *Keith laughs* And she says, "Just so you know, I'm leaving you." *Keith gasps* *Eamon: Ohh.* And that's, and I said, "WHAT?!" *Keith: Ho-oh!* I'm looking, I'm looking toward George, little tear comes out of my eye. George looks at me and he goes, "What's the matter, li'l fella?" *starts laughing*
Keith: What?!
Eamon: Oh, my God.
Kyle: *laughing* Holy shit!
47:02 Clay: And I says, "Oh, nothing, George. E-hem." And so I go back to the phone and says, *muffled voice* "What the fuck you talking about?!" You can imagine I'm having this conversation, George Kennedy is sitting right in front of me on a horse; she's telling me to get OFF my high horse--*Eamon chuckles*--and I'm SITTING on a high horse, so... Anyway, I never forgot that.
47:16 Kyle: *****Oh my god. Yowza!
47:19 Clay: Yeah. That's one thing I've never forgotten.
Keith: Wow...
Kyle: That's a LOT!
47:21 Clay: And the other thing is, with George Kennedy is, he came in uh, the... He came in the wardrobe. We were putting his wardrobe together. And he's holding up this pair of boots. And he says uh, "Clay, listen uh--" He always called me Mr. Borris, actually. "Mr. Borris," he says, "do you mind if I wear these boots instead?" And so I look at 'em. They looked like old boots, you know. He says, "You know, cuz I wore these in John Ford's film. I wo--I wore these with John Wayne. I wore these--" I said "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?" I said, "Of COURSE you can put them on!" *laughter* He put the boots on and th--and get this! I kissed both his feet on the boots! *laughter* *laughing* So, every time I see the film, and I see George sitting on that horse, and I look at those shoes, I think: "I kissed those!" *laughter* *Eamon: That's amazing.* So, that kind of stuff you can have fun with on set. You know? The kind of things you remember.
Eamon: Do you have a favorite Western? Was it "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly?" or--
Clay: Yeah. It would have to be "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly", and then "Once Upon a Time in the West".
Eamon: Yeah. I think that, that's my personal favorite--
48:18 Clay: You know, there's a lot of Westerns that I love, right? I mean, you know, "The Gunfighter", with Gregory Peck, n', that kind of stuff. But uh, did you ever see Quiet Cool?
Keith: No! I haven't seen it. We're gonna have to make sure we all watch it now.
48:30 Clay: Anyways, it's like a modern-day Western. That's why I got hired to do The Gunfighters, cuz... The last half hour of the--of the movie is pure Western. I shot it like a Western; it looks like a Western; and I made it like a Western, you know? There's motorcycles instead of horses! And a lot of the reviews of the films actually said that. Cuz obviously Borris is trying to make a Western... So uh, yeah! I love Westerns, and so... Did you ever see uh, Forever Knight?
Keith: Oh yeah!
Kyle: We have to ask about that, cuz that has some other Highlander alumns... involved as well, so!
48:59 Clay: Yeah, yeah! So I did... I did a bunch of Forever Knight, right. 'N they used to have flashbacks the same thing to the past in that show. So I did a couple of Western flashbacks in that, and so Ken knew that I loved Westerns cuz when we did Sweating Bullets, we did an episode that was a Western with uh, Clint Walker, playing an aging cowboy that somebody's trying to kill on a film set, and that was like a Western. You know, just a quick thing: My father was a real Western freak too, you know? You know, he's like uh... He's like 6'4, something like that. 6'5... You know, and I'm only like, 5'6? *Kyle laughs* And uh, so I said to uh, to Clint I say, "You wanna pull--I wanna pull a joke on my father," I said. I stood on an apple box, next to him, and I made myself just a little taller than him. *Eamon laughs* Right? So the camera starts on me and him talking, and he's saying, "Hello, Mr. Borris. How are you? I understand you're a Cheyenne fan, thank you." And actually, we're talking, the camera pulls back, back, back... And when I'm watching it with my father, he's going, "Tabernacle!" in French, you dig it? "Tabernacle, I thought that guy was a lot sh-taller than that!" *laughter* "You're taller than him!" I said "I KNOW, Dad! He looks tall on film! It's really weird, huh?" *laughter* *Clay laughs* As we're talking, the camera pulls back and he sees I'm standing on a box and he goes, "You son of a bitch!" *laughs* And so then my father, he got--he was so happy to see that he wasn't as short like I was! *laughing* Anyways, those kind of memories I, I just love, you know?
Keith: That's amazing!
50:29 Clay: **** So, yeah. Yeah.
Keith: So, one question we ask everyone that's on our show, is...
Clay: Okay...
Keith: Would you wanna be immortal? And if you were, what would you wanna do?
50:37 Clay: Yeah. I think I'd wanna be... I'd wanna be... I would... I'd like to have been, uh... You know, Pat Garrett. Something like that. Bob Dil--Wild, Wild Bill Hickock. One of those guys.
Keith: Right!
Kyle: Yeah! *laughs*
Clay: No, no! I... That's like, you know, because I love Westerns, I think in Western days, I would've been a gunfighter. And uh...
Kyle: Ooh, that would be good because it'd be hard for a gunfighter to take off your head! That would be uh... *Keith laughs* You'd be in good shape!
Clay: *laughs* Anyways, when we did Highlander, you know the guy who starred in uh, Forever Knight, he was in... I think my second episode that I did there.
Keith: That's right! Turnabout!
51:07 Clay: That was kind--That was kind of neat for me to be working with both those guys.
Kyle: Did you end up having a... different relationship with him when you went on to work with him on Forever Knight? Or... Did you guys already have a good rapport when you started on Turnabout?
51:20 Clay: No, we had a great rapport on Forever Knight. We were... You know, we worked really well together. When he came on to, uh, Highlander, you know, it was like... You know, he wasn't the guy in charge anymore, but he's still a great guy. I mean, really. He's a beautiful human being. So, I got along with him real well. It was fun having them together.
Kyle: We love that episode. That is some of our favorite Highlander moments from that season.
Keith: Oh, for sure!
Clay: Yeah, yeah. Well--
Kyle: When he reveals himself to have multiple personalities, he uh--*Clay: Right!*--He really like leans in--*Keith laughs*
51:47 Clay: The thing that was great--The thing that was great about him was that he was a trained theater actor, right? And he really knew how to use a fuckin' sword! *Keith: Awesome!* So when we did that fight scene, man! Those guys were SO fucking good together! *laughter* Remember that fight scene, how great it was?
Eamon: Yeah.
Kyle: Yeah, that was a--
Keith: Yeah, it was great! Yeah!
Kyle: It also has one of our favorite moments with a barrel-throw!
52:04 Clay: It was an amazing fight scene! It was amazing just to see them work out together! I used to love getting involved with the sword fights and try different things and all that, right? Anyways I--Yeah, that's one of my favorite episodes, too. Which one do you like the best?
Keith: Oh, of YOUR episodes?
Clay: Yeah.
Kyle: Oooh!
Keith: Uh... Uh, let me think! Which one's our favorite of yours? Uh...
Kyle: Ooh that, the--This might actually... result in a debate, cuz there's a few real highlights, here.
Keith: We love Line of Fire, cuz we think that's got a lot of like, character 'n--
Eamon: That's--that's the one with, um, Tex Cobb.
Keith: Randall Tex Cobb. *Clay: Yeah.* Um... we LOVE Turnabout. Uh, and actually I remember when we, when we watched THAT episode... I for one... mentioned how much I liked the way it was filmed. Like, your, your filming style in that episode was like, very fluid. Uh, and it served really well like, the... the camera kind of floats around some of the scenes, it's rea--it's really nice!
52:51: Clay: Right.
Keith: Yeah.
52:52 Clay: Right. Well I was Dutching the camera, right? We call--you know, Dutching the camera, you know what that means, right?
Keith and Kyle: Yes!
Kyle: Givin--giving the Dutch Angles?
Keith and Clay: Yeah.
53:00 Clay: Well I, I started doing that on uh, Forever Knight. I told Ken, I said, "I'm gonna do this thing where I Dutch the camera." He goes, "Go for it!" And uh, cuz I thought it fitted the scene, when he's walking uh, walking around and stuff. Y'know?
Keith: Yeah!
53:11 Clay: You gotta be careful about using that kind of shot, cuz it-- if it's used out of context, it-it-it kicks you out of the picture, you know?
Keith: Mmhm!
Kyle: Right.
53:18 Clay: And so it--So it has to be used in the right way. So I learned how to use it on Forever Knight pretty well.
Keith: In that scene in Turnabout when you used that, Duncan's actually walking around a mental asylum, so it-it really gives this great uneasiness to the, the scene, which is really nice.
53:32 Clay: Right, right. Exactly. No, I'm glad you noticed that. Yeah!
Kyle: Yeah, we try to talk about the, the shots. It's also striking me how many uh, how many different shooting techniques have nationalities bit into--built into them! We talked about the French Reverse earlier, now we're talking about Dutch Angles... *laughing*
53:46 Clay: Yeah. *laughing* Yeah.
Kyle: Do we have any other like, ethnic shots out there?
Keith: "Ethnic shots!" *laughter*
53:52 Clay: Well, I mean I can't give away ALL the secrets. *Rewatchers laugh* *Clay laughs* So, uh... I'm surprised that you heard about the French Reverse for the first time!
Keith: Yeah! That's a new one to us! We're always learning on this show!
54:03 Clay: It's uh, whenever we're in trouble--Whenever we're in trouble we say, "Okay! It's time to do a French Reverse!" *laughter* So if there was a picture, we wro--uh, wherever you're shooting, if there was a picture behind the wall--If there was a picture on the wall, we'd take the picture out. When we cut to the other guy there was no picture, right? *Keith: Right!* So, there's so many ways to cheat like that; we did it all the time. It's the only way you get your fuckin' day. Get the fuck out of there! *laughter* Let's go! Shoot! *Kyle: Ooh!* *laughs* So anyway uh, well I'm glad I talked to you guys! Thanks for calling me!
Keith: Yeah, thank you so much!
Eamon: Uh, thank you, Clay! We really appreciate it!
Clay: Yeah!
Keith: Yeah! And we've added a bunch of movies to our "Must Watch" list, which I--I'm excited to see uh, Quiet Cool, so, this'll be fun. Thank you again, Clay!
54:39 Clay: Yeah, I think you'll like it. You know. It's a good little action film. And you'll see my style in there, for sure, and... And you'll see what I mean when it looks like a Western, trust me.
Keith: Great! Well thank you again, Clay, for uh, talking to us! Uh, we hope the fans have enjoyed this as much as we have, and uh thank you for all you've, uh, contributed to the world of Highlander and uh, TV and film! Thank you, Clay!
54:59 Clay: Okay! Well thank you very much, guys.
Keith: Alright! See you!
Clay: Talk to you later. Alright. Bye.
Kyle: See you, take care!
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Keith: Hey, Rewatchers! We hope you enjoyed our interview with Clay Borris, director of Highlander! It was certainly a blast to talk to him, and Clay's stories about growing up in Cabbagetown and making his first independent films were truly awesome. Once again, stay tuned next week, because we are going to be releasing a never-before-seen, again that's NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN insider look at a day in the life on a Highlander set! This is an exclusive Highlander Rewatched video, and we can't wait to share it with all the fans out there. It's really a special look at the inside world of Highlander. Thanks again for listening! We'll see you next week! Bye!
55:54 Keith: Clay, before we wrap up: This show gets ou--kind of edited... Uh, we'll put it together in post. So all this obviously that I'm saying right now is gonna get cut. Um, but we--
Kyle: It's gonna be replaced by a still of a dog.
Keith: Yeah, heheh--
Kyle: Um--
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