Can you separate the artist from their work?

Jul 11, 2014 23:07

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byslantedlight July 12 2014, 00:35:24 UTC
Interesting question... I suppose it depends why you bought a piece of art in the first place. If you bought it because you liked it as art, then presumably you'd still like the artwork, but if you knew the artist had done something awful it might then make you think of the awful thing whenever you saw it. If you bought it because it-was-by-this-famous-guy! and then this-famous-guy! did something awful, then bad luck for you, because people are irredeemably, stupidly human.

If I had artwork by Harris - well I do, I have Two Little Boys on my mp3 actually - I'd feel sad not only because of the song (which is still sad in its own right, I think) but because my memories and thoughts of it are now changed.

If I had a Woody Allen dvd - well I wouldn't, because I've never liked his films, don't "get" them, and you can tell me he's as brilliant as you like and I'd still think Really? Why?, so to me he's just another man who's done awful things.

But what about all the things we own/like/appreciate where we don't know about the artist's/writer's/musician's wrongdoing? Does that make owning it better or worse? The law says ignorance is no excuse - can we take that into the morals of owning art where you don't know someone's background?

And what about the bargain-priced t-shirt we know was made in a sweatshop by a 10 year old, or the trainers made by a company that we know poisons children by dumping their toxic waste in open pits outside the town where they live (of course that's not likely to be a "western" country) - are the people who're now angsting about Harris paintings also going through their wardrobes and consciences? I bet they're not...

You know, I think there just may be an even bigger picture...

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alicambs July 12 2014, 05:13:45 UTC
Before I reply to your answerer, I'll note it was realising that I'd not read never mind responded to your entries for weeks that pushed me to post!

I must point out that Woody Allen has been accused but not charged with abuse and that the situation is very, very muddy and no where near as clean cut as it first appears, but I so agree with you about his films.

You know, I think there just may be an even bigger picture...
You are SO, so right, and we've got children and adults dying in Syria, Iraq and the Gaza strip due to the actions of their leaders, but this was an ethics issue I chose to present and ask for my course. I wanted something relevant and 'in the present'. My other one was on whether cannabis should be legalised the day before 'Legal highs' were made illegal here.

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byslantedlight July 12 2014, 22:09:43 UTC
Oh excellent - in that case, I'm sure you owe me many more posts, now get on with it... *g*

And sorry, I worded myself badly/unclearly (shock! unexpected!) - what I was clumsily wondering, as an argument for your ethics question, was whether we can claim one reasoning artist's behaviour vs their art, when we claim a totally different reasoning to justify our own poor behaviour over made-objects. If we judge a t-shirt on its merits (it's cheap, it fits and I like it) and don't worry about a disagreeable background, then why do we judge art differently? Or vice-versa, if we feel we have to throw away Harris' art because it turns out he's done something terrible, then shouldn't we be going through our wardrobes/cupboards/etc. etc.? I'm not answering either way, just wondering... *g*

(And yeah, I realise the WA case is muddy, I just grabbed it from someone else's comment above - so lazy of me... *g*)

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alicambs July 12 2014, 22:36:00 UTC
Oh excellent - in that case, I'm sure you owe me many more posts, now get on with it... *g*
Pfft. :-)

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