astrology.
astrology... so it's bullshit. well, from most logical points of view. but recently, ive been thinking alot about it. before id justve written it off as pointless to even contemplate because its some non-rational pseudoscience(if even that). then i saw this astrology book which had specific birthdates to look up and learn about people born those days. the chapter for may 28th was a bit creepy cuz it had a few too many parallels with my life. since then, ive tried to find any sort of logical base for astrology. not with stars suns moons and all that bull, but with more simple logic. maybe it has to do with how the enviroment changes at certain times of the year. maybe being born in november means you dont get to see the outside world much in your first months of life. or lets say your mother is pregnant with you during fish season and you get more of a certain type of food based on how our diet patterns are effected by our environment.
im gonna make a guess that astrology was developed by simply analyzing the personality traits of many people and finding the most common traits for each moon cycle or some crap like that; not by studying the stars position. while the stars' position could technically have some sort of insignificant gravitational pulling affect it seems there must be more logical explanations for correlations between peoples lives and their astrological charts. stupid logical conundrum.
anyways, it's sorta long but u can read my astrological chart (brittany sent it to me, it calculates using my lat/long at birth and time of birth) here:
Name:
Date: 05/28/1986
Time: 1:10 AM
Location:San Francisco,
Long:
Lat: 37N46..'30
NATAL CHART FOR:
Sun in Gemini
Under the sign that symbolizes versatility and change, you are constantly on the go. You are kind, affectionate, sensitive, intuitive, and idealistic. Your mind is active, quick in reasoning, curious, versatile, inquiring, diverse, alert, and skillful. You are a difficult sign to understand, perhaps because you are so busy with so many things that others find it difficult to categorize you. Your fear of boredom and restless energy keep you jumping from one project to another. You devise several projects at the same time so that, depending on your mood, you can switch between them. In this, you are very much like the Virgo: you like to explore all avenues of expression. Your ability to interact with all sorts of people may be the greatest gift you possess, however you do have a tendency to spread yourself too thin.
Your busy-busy energy, experimenting ways, and your extrovert nature can make you a superficial person. You also need to develop your concentration, as your attention span may be a bit limited. You need to be careful, for you can easily scatter your mind into too many directions. In order to be truly successful, you need to channel your versatility for a purpose. Granted that it is difficult for you to stick to a predictable course, for stable conditions bore you. Unlike the Virgo to whom concentration and purpose are natural, you could waste your intellectual potential.
Since you are naturally competitive, there are many fields in which you could succeed easily. These include a career as a journalist, reporter, or commentator. You generally lack the patience for research positions. You should take hold of your restless energy, for it can become nervousness. (There are no differences in practice between a nervous Gemini and a nagging Virgo.)
This sort of indulgence is also reflected in your relationships and in your approach to life in general. Aside from being a bit flirtatious, you can actually experiment with several relationships at the same time, and you possess a unique gift for being sincere in every one of them. It is also fortunate that you can juggle your several affairs without falling into hot water. Once you settle down, you become attached to your home. The partner you will choose will not be necessarily the partner to whom you were attracted the most. As an Air sign, you are practical too. Love and romance alone do not lead you to marriage. You prefer a partner who can stabilize you without hindering you, one with whom you can have rapport at several levels. You pay high premium for wit, charm, and good conversation.
Depending on how you use the energies, you can be diverse or superficial, versatile or scattered, original or imitating, intellectual or shallow. (In case of interest, the German, French, Latin, Turkish, and Indian terms are respectively Sun: Sonne, Soleil, Sol, Gunesh, Surya (or Ravi), and the Sign is Zwillinge, Gemeaux, Gemini, Ikizler, Mithuna).
The Sun stands for the ego, will, honor, dignity, and pride. It is strongest in 1st, 5th, and 10th houses; weakest in 12th, 6th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. In the latter cases, unless compensated for, you may not be sufficiently assertive.
SUN in 3rd HOUSE:
Talking about a butterfly on the go, you are it. You are versatile, adaptable, restless, busy-busy, and eager. It is good that you can be studious too and escape superficiality.
The MOON in AQUARIUS:
Enthroned in the chilling home of Saturn and Uranus (but more the domain of Uranus), the Moon is in an intellectual and fixed position in Aquarius. Key word is Disinterestedness. Along with the other three fixed signs, Taurus, Leo, and Scorpio, the mid-point of these constitute the four great cherubim: the spiritual-mental or Stabilizing Point, the Lion or Love Point, the Eagle or Regenerative Point, and the Angle or Humanizing Point. These are considered the most powerful centers of energy. If the Moon is positioned at or near one of these points and favorably aspected by other planets, her presence will be felt throughout life. The Moon in Aquarius is probably more evenly balanced than in any other sign. Here she shows the least emotional impulse, the least enthusiasm, and the least veering to sentimentality. Her subjects here are rationalistic. Yet there is also a powerful human quality in this placement. The native may be, however, more involved with humanity than any one individual. Here the Moon bespeaks intense interest in human endeavors and scientific and philosophical truths. Due to marked absence of emotional or sentimental impulses, it will appear as if the Native is selfishly preoccupied with his/her own interests rather than sympathetic about those of others. Indeed, Aquarius occupies one of the most sensitive points in the zodiac. However, it is more an intellectual sensitivity rather than an emotional one, for there is a nervous awareness toward every passing impression. People with the Moon in this position are natural idealists and are generally optimistically inclined, their reaction to others positive and well-balanced. In temperament they are quiet and gentle, by spurts vivacious and even enthusiastic and excitable at times, though the disposition is seldom inclined to extremes. They have a tendency to worry over trifles. As a rule they are well-liked, others frequently seeking their practical advice and making them the repository of their confidences.
These natives have strong religious and philosophical instincts coupled to a humanitarian urge. They are notably unconventional in some ways, tolerant, diplomatic, reasonable, discreet, and independent in their views and attitudes. Sometimes they rely too much on others and display an uncharacteristic timidity. Rarely will they betray a confidence. Their tendency to occasional melancholy, depression, hypersensitivity, and worry will often manifest through fidgety efforts to forget themselves in continued action. Sometimes there is also the superficiality characteristic to air signs, but this is least noticeable in Aquarius. The Aquarian lunar tinge ordinarily stimulates an interest in advanced thought without the over-emphasis of any one interest. There may be a scattering of pursuits. In cases where the rest of the nativity denotes genius, this lunar vibration furthers the scientific and inspirational qualities. The Moon here postulates a sort of non-entanglement complex or neutrality of attitude that, while ideal for a scholar or professional person, is apt to become a burden in intimate relationships because of the difficulty experienced by the Native in narrowing his/her interests to the purely personal sphere. Although these people are sociable and sympathetic enough to meet any occasion, it is difficult for them in close one-to-one situations. The Moon in Aquarius not infrequently foreshadows sorrow and changes occasioned by others. Where the Moon is adversely aspected (Natal or Transit), it brings about disappointments vis-a-vis the opposite sex, liability of thwarting of the affections, or through children (or lack of them). It can forecast a troubled or somewhat aimless existence. Although these persons mix well with others, they can also weather long periods of lonesomeness. There is much originality in this placement and attraction to the curious and strange. The Moon in Aquarius is said to be better for a man. In a woman it can take away (real or on the surface) warmth in emotional responses. This is not a placement that favors passion or sexual appeal in either sex.
This lunar position is notable for the absence of jealousy and possessiveness, the absurd vices of Leo, Cancer, Taurus, and Scorpio natives. Women here make ideal mothers and companions to their children. Their life-style does not change appreciably after marriage, as far as attitudes, pursuits, and habits are concerned. However, as with the Sun in Aquarius, this is generally not considered to be a very marital minded vibration. There may be too much of an individualistic and erratic streak in it. Some of the natives may be also too bohemian in their tastes and surroundings. The shortcomings of the less evolved natives include their tendency to procrastination, laziness, chronic promise-breaking, boastfulness, a dogmatic, routine-loving disposition. All these natives are able to maximize their opportunities. The 1st Decanate natives may experience anxiety and hard struggles in life. Their most ardent hopes and wishes may not come to fruition or delayed. Eccentricity in the form of unusual attachments and sexual partners is a likely possibility. The 2nd decan natives are best described as the truly inspired and eccentric. The 3rd Decan natives may be burdened with difficult lives. The Moon in Aquarius favors all forms of humanitarian, political, and educational pursuits, exploration in all fields, authorship, electrical technology, and astrology.
The MOON in 12th HOUSE:
This is not a good position for the Moon. Your emotions about life fluctuate; you feel somewhat restricted, confined and troubled. You cater to clandestine affairs (which could surface).
MERCURY in GEMINI (Dignity Position):
Versatile, adaptable, shrewd and quick, you have multi-dimensional interests; talent with words. You like travel and mobility; always on the go (good position for a traveling salesperson).
MERCURY in 4th HOUSE:
Your mind is perceptive and retentive. You have a sense of harmony, perhaps artistic (or decorative) talent. If Mercury is -, it can destabilize your home conditions (eg:forced move); cause insecurity.
VENUS in CANCER:
You are very imaginative and sentimental, perhaps a bit idealistic about love, although you can be indiscriminate. You are also a bit dependent on your mate, perhaps possessive. You should watch your weight.
VENUS in 5th HOUSE:
You are unusually romantic and affectionate. Unless Venus is adverse, it can promise a rich love-life. It also encourages children in marriage; gains through educational institutions, literary publications, or through investments.
MARS in CAPRICORN (Exalted Position):
If Mars is positive, you possess a strong character, far-reaching ambitions, enthusiasm, inexhaustible energy, and unyielding courage. This is a fine potential for high public appointments. If Mars is adverse, the same qualities are expressed in a selfish, impulsive, and unwise fashion so that, in time, there is the possibility of loss of prestige and public esteem.
MARS in 12th HOUSE:
You can become an excellent strategist, partly because you do not reveal your plans. You may cater to occupations in hospitals and charitable institutions. If Mars is adverse, you make the type of choices which lead to trouble, sorrow, or major regrets. It could make you into an outcast, or one who is searching without knowing what it is you are searching for.
JUPITER in PISCES (Dignity Position):
Depending on Jupiter's aspects at birth and later, if positive, it can help you to become a most sympathetic, compassionate, and charitable individual, perhaps another Mother Theresa helping the unfortunate populace. If Venus is also in Pisces, you may even possess talent for artistic expression, perhaps as a performer. However if adverse, it can make you a wishy-washy and parasitical person whom others avoid.
JUPITER in 1st HOUSE:
You are generally fortunate and enjoy good health. You project yourself as optimistic, fun-loving and capable. You are a good executive material; like traveling. Sometimes you are wasteful or perhaps harmlessly indulgent. However if adverse, you are excessively indulgent in some aspect of your life. This could become a problem in time.
SATURN in SAGITTARIUS:
If Saturn is positive here, you are likely to become a benevolent person who is dedicated to the good of the people. You are trustworthy, honorable, and deserve respect. However, if it is adverse, it can make you an insincere person who is interested only in promoting his/her self-centered status in life.
SATURN in 9th HOUSE:
Depending on Saturn's aspects at birth and later, if positive, it can structure your mind (eg, an excellent position for studying law, philosophy and natural sciences). It can also direct you into positions where you will enjoy much public esteem (eg, president of a university). However, if adverse, it can severely restrict your values and outlook on life and make you a tunnel-visioned or bigoted person. You may encounter disfavor with the public or trouble with the law.
URANUS in SAGITTARIUS:
You are bestowed with a superb mind, vivid imagination, and broad vision you are progressive. If anyone can build castles in the sky and bring them down to earth, it is you. However, depending on the aspects to Uranus at birth and later, you could also demonstrate your potentials as (rebellious) flashes of genius that you cannot harness. Your mind may become restless or antagonistic against the prevailing social conditions. You could become an anarchist and outcast.
URANUS in 10th HOUSE:
You are likely to choose a position that involves the populace, but you are a nonconformist. You need room to move. Your career and direction in life are likely to fluctuate. Plan wisely and don't outsmart yourself.
NEPTUNE in CAPRICORN: (Fall position)
magnified mental powers and innate understanding of the highest (or disreputable and scandalous) aspirations; pursuing noble social purposes (or selfish goals).
NEPTUNE in 11th HOUSE:
Depending on Neptune's aspects at birth and later, you could become a great humanitarian; a congenial and loyal friend. Or, you have the tendency of idealizing life. You are susceptible to the opinions of the people in your environment. You should be very discriminating, for you may be duped or led astray.
PLUTO in SCORPIO:(Dignity Position):
You are the 9/85-11/95 Generation who may witness (or become a part of) a major evolutionary or revolutionary cycle; perhaps a time when destiny will be truly at work.
PLUTO in 8th HOUSE:
Pluto can be your protective guide leading you on an evolutionary path of growth, realizations and different life-styles. Depending on Pluto's aspects at birth and later, you will self-actualize or be severely hindered.
im gonna make a guess that astrology was developed by simply analyzing the personality traits of many people and finding the most common traits for each moon cycle or some crap like that; not by studying the stars position. while the stars' position could technically have some sort of insignificant gravitational pulling affect it seems there must be more logical explanations for correlations between peoples lives and their astrological charts. stupid logical conundrum.
anyways, it's sorta long but u can read my astrological chart (brittany sent it to me, it calculates using my lat/long at birth and time of birth) here:
Name:
Date: 05/28/1986
Time: 1:10 AM
Location:San Francisco,
Long:
Lat: 37N46..'30
NATAL CHART FOR:
Sun in Gemini
Under the sign that symbolizes versatility and change, you are constantly on the go. You are kind, affectionate, sensitive, intuitive, and idealistic. Your mind is active, quick in reasoning, curious, versatile, inquiring, diverse, alert, and skillful. You are a difficult sign to understand, perhaps because you are so busy with so many things that others find it difficult to categorize you. Your fear of boredom and restless energy keep you jumping from one project to another. You devise several projects at the same time so that, depending on your mood, you can switch between them. In this, you are very much like the Virgo: you like to explore all avenues of expression. Your ability to interact with all sorts of people may be the greatest gift you possess, however you do have a tendency to spread yourself too thin.
Your busy-busy energy, experimenting ways, and your extrovert nature can make you a superficial person. You also need to develop your concentration, as your attention span may be a bit limited. You need to be careful, for you can easily scatter your mind into too many directions. In order to be truly successful, you need to channel your versatility for a purpose. Granted that it is difficult for you to stick to a predictable course, for stable conditions bore you. Unlike the Virgo to whom concentration and purpose are natural, you could waste your intellectual potential.
Since you are naturally competitive, there are many fields in which you could succeed easily. These include a career as a journalist, reporter, or commentator. You generally lack the patience for research positions. You should take hold of your restless energy, for it can become nervousness. (There are no differences in practice between a nervous Gemini and a nagging Virgo.)
This sort of indulgence is also reflected in your relationships and in your approach to life in general. Aside from being a bit flirtatious, you can actually experiment with several relationships at the same time, and you possess a unique gift for being sincere in every one of them. It is also fortunate that you can juggle your several affairs without falling into hot water. Once you settle down, you become attached to your home. The partner you will choose will not be necessarily the partner to whom you were attracted the most. As an Air sign, you are practical too. Love and romance alone do not lead you to marriage. You prefer a partner who can stabilize you without hindering you, one with whom you can have rapport at several levels. You pay high premium for wit, charm, and good conversation.
Depending on how you use the energies, you can be diverse or superficial, versatile or scattered, original or imitating, intellectual or shallow. (In case of interest, the German, French, Latin, Turkish, and Indian terms are respectively Sun: Sonne, Soleil, Sol, Gunesh, Surya (or Ravi), and the Sign is Zwillinge, Gemeaux, Gemini, Ikizler, Mithuna).
The Sun stands for the ego, will, honor, dignity, and pride. It is strongest in 1st, 5th, and 10th houses; weakest in 12th, 6th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. In the latter cases, unless compensated for, you may not be sufficiently assertive.
SUN in 3rd HOUSE:
Talking about a butterfly on the go, you are it. You are versatile, adaptable, restless, busy-busy, and eager. It is good that you can be studious too and escape superficiality.
The MOON in AQUARIUS:
Enthroned in the chilling home of Saturn and Uranus (but more the domain of Uranus), the Moon is in an intellectual and fixed position in Aquarius. Key word is Disinterestedness. Along with the other three fixed signs, Taurus, Leo, and Scorpio, the mid-point of these constitute the four great cherubim: the spiritual-mental or Stabilizing Point, the Lion or Love Point, the Eagle or Regenerative Point, and the Angle or Humanizing Point. These are considered the most powerful centers of energy. If the Moon is positioned at or near one of these points and favorably aspected by other planets, her presence will be felt throughout life. The Moon in Aquarius is probably more evenly balanced than in any other sign. Here she shows the least emotional impulse, the least enthusiasm, and the least veering to sentimentality. Her subjects here are rationalistic. Yet there is also a powerful human quality in this placement. The native may be, however, more involved with humanity than any one individual. Here the Moon bespeaks intense interest in human endeavors and scientific and philosophical truths. Due to marked absence of emotional or sentimental impulses, it will appear as if the Native is selfishly preoccupied with his/her own interests rather than sympathetic about those of others. Indeed, Aquarius occupies one of the most sensitive points in the zodiac. However, it is more an intellectual sensitivity rather than an emotional one, for there is a nervous awareness toward every passing impression. People with the Moon in this position are natural idealists and are generally optimistically inclined, their reaction to others positive and well-balanced. In temperament they are quiet and gentle, by spurts vivacious and even enthusiastic and excitable at times, though the disposition is seldom inclined to extremes. They have a tendency to worry over trifles. As a rule they are well-liked, others frequently seeking their practical advice and making them the repository of their confidences.
These natives have strong religious and philosophical instincts coupled to a humanitarian urge. They are notably unconventional in some ways, tolerant, diplomatic, reasonable, discreet, and independent in their views and attitudes. Sometimes they rely too much on others and display an uncharacteristic timidity. Rarely will they betray a confidence. Their tendency to occasional melancholy, depression, hypersensitivity, and worry will often manifest through fidgety efforts to forget themselves in continued action. Sometimes there is also the superficiality characteristic to air signs, but this is least noticeable in Aquarius. The Aquarian lunar tinge ordinarily stimulates an interest in advanced thought without the over-emphasis of any one interest. There may be a scattering of pursuits. In cases where the rest of the nativity denotes genius, this lunar vibration furthers the scientific and inspirational qualities. The Moon here postulates a sort of non-entanglement complex or neutrality of attitude that, while ideal for a scholar or professional person, is apt to become a burden in intimate relationships because of the difficulty experienced by the Native in narrowing his/her interests to the purely personal sphere. Although these people are sociable and sympathetic enough to meet any occasion, it is difficult for them in close one-to-one situations. The Moon in Aquarius not infrequently foreshadows sorrow and changes occasioned by others. Where the Moon is adversely aspected (Natal or Transit), it brings about disappointments vis-a-vis the opposite sex, liability of thwarting of the affections, or through children (or lack of them). It can forecast a troubled or somewhat aimless existence. Although these persons mix well with others, they can also weather long periods of lonesomeness. There is much originality in this placement and attraction to the curious and strange. The Moon in Aquarius is said to be better for a man. In a woman it can take away (real or on the surface) warmth in emotional responses. This is not a placement that favors passion or sexual appeal in either sex.
This lunar position is notable for the absence of jealousy and possessiveness, the absurd vices of Leo, Cancer, Taurus, and Scorpio natives. Women here make ideal mothers and companions to their children. Their life-style does not change appreciably after marriage, as far as attitudes, pursuits, and habits are concerned. However, as with the Sun in Aquarius, this is generally not considered to be a very marital minded vibration. There may be too much of an individualistic and erratic streak in it. Some of the natives may be also too bohemian in their tastes and surroundings. The shortcomings of the less evolved natives include their tendency to procrastination, laziness, chronic promise-breaking, boastfulness, a dogmatic, routine-loving disposition. All these natives are able to maximize their opportunities. The 1st Decanate natives may experience anxiety and hard struggles in life. Their most ardent hopes and wishes may not come to fruition or delayed. Eccentricity in the form of unusual attachments and sexual partners is a likely possibility. The 2nd decan natives are best described as the truly inspired and eccentric. The 3rd Decan natives may be burdened with difficult lives. The Moon in Aquarius favors all forms of humanitarian, political, and educational pursuits, exploration in all fields, authorship, electrical technology, and astrology.
The MOON in 12th HOUSE:
This is not a good position for the Moon. Your emotions about life fluctuate; you feel somewhat restricted, confined and troubled. You cater to clandestine affairs (which could surface).
MERCURY in GEMINI (Dignity Position):
Versatile, adaptable, shrewd and quick, you have multi-dimensional interests; talent with words. You like travel and mobility; always on the go (good position for a traveling salesperson).
MERCURY in 4th HOUSE:
Your mind is perceptive and retentive. You have a sense of harmony, perhaps artistic (or decorative) talent. If Mercury is -, it can destabilize your home conditions (eg:forced move); cause insecurity.
VENUS in CANCER:
You are very imaginative and sentimental, perhaps a bit idealistic about love, although you can be indiscriminate. You are also a bit dependent on your mate, perhaps possessive. You should watch your weight.
VENUS in 5th HOUSE:
You are unusually romantic and affectionate. Unless Venus is adverse, it can promise a rich love-life. It also encourages children in marriage; gains through educational institutions, literary publications, or through investments.
MARS in CAPRICORN (Exalted Position):
If Mars is positive, you possess a strong character, far-reaching ambitions, enthusiasm, inexhaustible energy, and unyielding courage. This is a fine potential for high public appointments. If Mars is adverse, the same qualities are expressed in a selfish, impulsive, and unwise fashion so that, in time, there is the possibility of loss of prestige and public esteem.
MARS in 12th HOUSE:
You can become an excellent strategist, partly because you do not reveal your plans. You may cater to occupations in hospitals and charitable institutions. If Mars is adverse, you make the type of choices which lead to trouble, sorrow, or major regrets. It could make you into an outcast, or one who is searching without knowing what it is you are searching for.
JUPITER in PISCES (Dignity Position):
Depending on Jupiter's aspects at birth and later, if positive, it can help you to become a most sympathetic, compassionate, and charitable individual, perhaps another Mother Theresa helping the unfortunate populace. If Venus is also in Pisces, you may even possess talent for artistic expression, perhaps as a performer. However if adverse, it can make you a wishy-washy and parasitical person whom others avoid.
JUPITER in 1st HOUSE:
You are generally fortunate and enjoy good health. You project yourself as optimistic, fun-loving and capable. You are a good executive material; like traveling. Sometimes you are wasteful or perhaps harmlessly indulgent. However if adverse, you are excessively indulgent in some aspect of your life. This could become a problem in time.
SATURN in SAGITTARIUS:
If Saturn is positive here, you are likely to become a benevolent person who is dedicated to the good of the people. You are trustworthy, honorable, and deserve respect. However, if it is adverse, it can make you an insincere person who is interested only in promoting his/her self-centered status in life.
SATURN in 9th HOUSE:
Depending on Saturn's aspects at birth and later, if positive, it can structure your mind (eg, an excellent position for studying law, philosophy and natural sciences). It can also direct you into positions where you will enjoy much public esteem (eg, president of a university). However, if adverse, it can severely restrict your values and outlook on life and make you a tunnel-visioned or bigoted person. You may encounter disfavor with the public or trouble with the law.
URANUS in SAGITTARIUS:
You are bestowed with a superb mind, vivid imagination, and broad vision you are progressive. If anyone can build castles in the sky and bring them down to earth, it is you. However, depending on the aspects to Uranus at birth and later, you could also demonstrate your potentials as (rebellious) flashes of genius that you cannot harness. Your mind may become restless or antagonistic against the prevailing social conditions. You could become an anarchist and outcast.
URANUS in 10th HOUSE:
You are likely to choose a position that involves the populace, but you are a nonconformist. You need room to move. Your career and direction in life are likely to fluctuate. Plan wisely and don't outsmart yourself.
NEPTUNE in CAPRICORN: (Fall position)
magnified mental powers and innate understanding of the highest (or disreputable and scandalous) aspirations; pursuing noble social purposes (or selfish goals).
NEPTUNE in 11th HOUSE:
Depending on Neptune's aspects at birth and later, you could become a great humanitarian; a congenial and loyal friend. Or, you have the tendency of idealizing life. You are susceptible to the opinions of the people in your environment. You should be very discriminating, for you may be duped or led astray.
PLUTO in SCORPIO:(Dignity Position):
You are the 9/85-11/95 Generation who may witness (or become a part of) a major evolutionary or revolutionary cycle; perhaps a time when destiny will be truly at work.
PLUTO in 8th HOUSE:
Pluto can be your protective guide leading you on an evolutionary path of growth, realizations and different life-styles. Depending on Pluto's aspects at birth and later, you will self-actualize or be severely hindered.