Comments | akaiyume: pro-choice rant. borrowed from elsewhere with permission.

akaiyume

pro-choice rant. borrowed from elsewhere with permission.

Feb 16, 2005 11:29

I didn't write the following, although I agree with it completely. It is an intelligent and eloquent statement.
Furthermore, it is an issue I feel strongly about, so I will not place this behind a cut. You may scroll by without reading, but you cannot ignore it completely. No apologies, no compromises.Everyone is so concerned about this ( Read more... )

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broken__shadows February 22 2005, 06:13:45 UTC

who cares why the mother is there. A human life is a human life and should not be murdred, especially by something so brutal and sadistic as being ripped apart limb from limb. How would YOU like being butchered by someone with a vacume large neough to rip you apart? How would you like it if someone else decided you were inconvient to them and wanted to butcher you? It is not any woman's right to choose whether or not to carry her child. It is not her right to butcher another person just because. And She will be judged by people and by God if such a being exists because MURDER INNOCENTS IS WRONG. ABORTION IS the MOST EVIL, VILE, DESPICABLE, FORM OF COWERDLY MURDER THERE IS. Wat ch the silent scream movie. It shows the entire process of an abortion procedure and most especially the ultrasound of the innocent life that struggles in vain to avoid the vacume and metal hook that so ruthlessly and mercilessly rip it apart limb from limb. It shows the "Silent Scream" phenomenon that has been shown in virtually every abortion taped ( ... )

akaiyume February 22 2005, 06:20:32 UTC

You have no room to talk of compassion.

Nor, I see do you even have the conviction of your words not to delete what you wrote. Had this been an apology for the way you phrased your objections to my opinions instead of a further attack, I would have written of the first attack as a momentary lack of judgement. However you delete and attack further. Cowardice and hypocrisy are a sad combination.

broken__shadows February 22 2005, 06:41:04 UTC

um no I deleted the first post becuase I decided to clarify things. You are an abortion supporter. Hypocracy and cowrdice are your reign of terror, not mine ( ... )

akaiyume February 22 2005, 07:35:13 UTC

You were the one who came here spewing filth like psyho bitch and declaring that you wished fully developed humans to be murdered and advocating mass murder. And yes I meant sociopath and I do not consider you to be at all pro-life. See the advocating mass murder of actual humans bit.

not fully developed

And this includes their nervous system, and sentience. Prior to 7 weeks there is no chance that pain can be felt. By 26 weeks it can, but can't really be understood. The majority of abortions happen prior to 7 weeks. After 26 weeks, abortions only happen due to absolute medical necessity. I don't see how anyone can compare that to the long term effects of being forced to have your body used against your will.

And from what you said about killing adults, you don't really care about pain in humans obviously. You just a fetus fetish.

broken__shadows February 22 2005, 08:00:01 UTC

It is easily comparable becuase it is the same thing. The nervous system and brain are enough there at 7 weeks, and the remaining otential is there that you cannot realistically say that the child does not have sentience. but regardless, the potential alone makes it immoral, and a sign of stupidity to say that its ok to murder an unborn baby just becuase it isn't sentient yet. Life is life is life. Human life is the same. No matter how you cut it a human is a human whether they are 1 second past the time the egg is fertilized or 1 second before death at 199. You can't form an artificial line and say this is when life begins. The cells are already dividing, the body, nervous system, and organs already shaping, and biological processes already working from the exact moment the egg is fertilized ( ... )

akaiyume February 22 2005, 08:30:28 UTC

People like you have killed someone i loved. you don't know me. you have no clue what I have been through or not. Do worms have sentience, or cats, or dogs? A potential sentience is not a sentience. And idiots like you who would demand the suffering of sentient life with your fetus fetishes are amoral beyond belief. Terminiating the life of something non-sentient isn't murder. if you believe it is, relish every meal you eat from now on. k?

broken__shadows February 22 2005, 06:49:17 UTC

as for compassion, I have none for abortionists and women that get or support abortions. One of my best friends survived an abortion attempt. her twin was not so lucky. To this day, Crystal crystal_lights still suffers affects from that abortion attempt. that attempt left her mother almost dead. And this was done at one of the facilities that at the time wasw considered "state of the art."
Furthermore, my cousin who had a baby at 19 was pressured to get an abortion by her mother. Her now ex-boyfriend and hsi family actually threatened her with death if she didn't get one becuase they didn't want to have to pay child support.
My Girlfriend's sister got an abortion and two years later the trama and guilt have left her a suicidal wreck. Not to mention that it left her barron because the vacume malfunctioned and damaged her womb.
Experience has left me jaded so no, I have no compassion for abortionists and for those who get abortions, especially thsoe that use it as brith control.

akaiyume February 22 2005, 07:21:36 UTC

When I was in highschool I had a friend who slit her wrists because her parents would not let her get an abortion. One of my best friends -who was deemed perfectly healthy -almost died because of complications with a chosen pregnancy. Post-partum depression can be so severe that women get put in psych wards. I've seen that too. The chance of that is approximately 70% greater for those who did not want the pregnancy, and full psychological recovery is not guaranteed. Carrying a fetus to term can leave lasting physical and mental problems. Forcing a fully developed sentient human to undergo those risks instead of aborting an undeveloped non-sentient fetus is akin to rape. I have no sympathy for those who would force women to carry a fetus to term against her will.

That being said, I have no sympathy for those who would force a woman to have an abortion against her will either. The woman is the sentient human involved. It is her choice.

pheonix_reborn February 22 2005, 07:47:28 UTC

First off, I don't know where you get your statistics but that figure is wrong. There is no difference in post-partum depression rates between women who wanted the child and those that didn't. Women who have abortions are five times more likely to have lasting and permanent psychological consequences, most of the time incurable. Most women with post partum depression recover; a full 90+% compared to the 10% of women with psychological problems due to having an abortion ( ... )

akaiyume February 22 2005, 08:16:42 UTC

I get my information from books on psychology and psychological journals? Where do you get yours - from anti-choice sites and scholars? What I have read and what I have seen first hand do not fit your profile of 'post abortion depression ( ... )

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