so would you prefer this be a private quiz or should i make a poll?akaiyumeMarch 12 2006, 23:42:10 UTC
If someone *asks* if you want to debate (especially a someone with a less than stellar reputation for things like tact, or restraint when something really bothers her) and then says she is not trying to be difficult and then follow that by writing instructions pointing to an icon which reads "here We are now, entertain Us" -
ALL that and you still didn't get it was a mock debate. Did you have to hock your sense of humour or are you just trying to bait me into using an icon I don't feel like today?
I thought I made it clear that I was talking only about the recorded version? That's the only performance I have access to in most cases (and definitely in the case we were discussing).
And I thought that I made it clear that the performance that makes it onto the recording is just another performance. Their is nothing more intrinsically correct or definitive about those lyrics.
Why for any reason should that one set of lyrics be transcribed from the recording and presented as "official" lyrics other than that Gerald wants it, even if Gerald isn't willing to do the work to get what he wants. Personally I think the closest thing any piece of art which is a performance (as opposed to print) can get to having a definitive version is what the creator wrote as a base to work from - whether they purposedly changed every freaking word in the piece or went word by word from the that base. At most, whether or not to release an official copy of the lyrics of the song as put on the cd should be a decison left to those who released it. If the band or label doesn't release any lyrics then maybe someone will transcribe them. Maybe not. But you have as much opportunity as anyone else to do so. Don't start bitching when the universe doesn't cater to your whims. Who the fuck you think you are... me?;p
b) were asshats to begin with and need additional fun made of them.
Multiple choice quiz time:
Absolute given: akaiyume makes it a condition that if anything sexual is to happen in the future between her and Gerald, that it will involve Gerald being stripped, Gerald wearing a blindfold and lying still, hands behind his head as he hears the sound of a few bottles being opened followed by the smell peppermint filling the room. Continuing to lie still, Gerald delights in the the feel of akaiyume's hand slowly and massaging oil over the length and breadth of his cock, her breath catching as in anticaption...
Which of the following will most likely happen:
a) akaiyume will lick, suck and fuck Gerald , the slippery but other wise inert lube enhancing the affects until many orgasms ensue all around and akaiyume graciously awards Gerald with 7 minutes post-sex cuddle time for his bravery in trusting her
b) akaiyume" then proceeds to actually rub peppermint oil all over Gerald's cock and swallow it whole because nothing sets off agony like a bit of pleasure before hand - and hey, that is exactly the kind of thing an asshat to begin with would do to someone who wasn't into really intense, hour or so long, but completely non-harmful pain
c)akaiyume will go masturbate because she is in a horny, sadistic mood and writing that got her kinda hot
d) options a and c
e) options b and c
e) Gerald will profusely apologize for the implication that akaiyume is "an asshat to begin with"
f) options e and a - as that will most likely result in the happiest ending for all involved.
g) obviously options f + c
i) Absolutely nothing. No way in hell is Gerald ever going to take the chance like that his one and only penis.
Completely up to you. ;-)claws_n_stripesMarch 13 2006, 13:27:10 UTC
ALL that and you still didn't get it was a mock debate. Did you have to hock your sense of humour or are you just trying to bait me into using an icon I don't feel like today?
'Tis teh intarweb, darlin'. It's not that I have no sense of humor; it's that our minds work differently, and we each would convey the same things differently when writing.
And I thought that I made it clear that the performance that makes it onto the recording is just another performance. Their is nothing more intrinsically correct or definitive about those lyrics.
You know, plenty (if not the vast overwhelming majority) of singers sing the exact same lyrics every time. That makes the lyrics "the lyrics" in those cases. How do you know the song/singer in question isn't one of those cases, given that neither of us has any evidence to the contrary?
Why for any reason should that one set of lyrics be transcribed from the recording and presented as "official" lyrics other than that Gerald wants it, even if Gerald isn't willing to do the work to get what he wants.
First: see above. Second: yanno, I have done exactly that, transcribed and posted, when the lyrics were clearly comprehensible. "Clearly comprehensible" and "James Brown" are not to each other what "peanut butter" is to "chocolate." Some of his vocals are clear, but that's a crapshoot.
e) Gerald will profusely apologize for the implication that akaiyume is "an asshat to begin with"
I'll do that if you can show me where I've ever corrected your grammar during a debate, especially if it was in a non-lighthearted manner (and I don't think that I've done even that much).
Re: Completely up to you. ;-)akaiyumeMarch 14 2006, 07:53:32 UTC
*sigh* At one time you told me that you thought you for beginning to catch on to my style humor- via intraweb too. Guess I "beginning to" and "continuing to" are very different things.
It's that our minds work differently
Well, everyone's mind works differently. But you..... maybe Pablo was correct.
ll do that if you can show me where I've ever corrected your grammar during a debate, especially if it was in a non-lighthearted manner (and I don't think that I've done even that much).
I distinctly remember some ranting about zie, neologisms, not even being able to use neologisms by strict dictionary terms (like anyone uses anyword that way) and rotting steak. Now you called it "linguistic purity" which just trying to cover the fact that where the language is concerned you are a reactionary because languages in the pure, natural sense evolve and change.
That said, g). :-D
Sorry you fail. That is not what my answer key has:
Now, class, do you think that is because (more than one may apply):
a) I reluctantly decided to skip the masturbating because menstural cramps were ruining the sexy feeling no matter how hot thoughts are making her.
b) Paula is the type of person who gets truly and deeply pissed by the mere implication that she is "an asshat to begin with" (intead of, oh say, a smart-assed bitch or something). Furthermore, she is sadistic and enjoys inflicting pain on people who don't like (like here includes also liking being in the posisiton where one sometimes takes things one doesn't actually like) said pain. As such, she really does want point and laugh at Ger as he fears his dick is burning off.
c) Peppermint oil roulette is only really fun if the actual risk and the acceptance of the risk is there. And somehow, Paula can't imagine Gerald agreeing to play peppermint oil roulette if he thinks the oil might be used. And in that case giving Gerald a reward for what he wants to do doesn't make sense. But neither would using the oil, because peppermint oil roulette is not about the punishment and/or pain (at least not in and of itself. and that shit hurts - I mean, very, very rarely do I of my own free choice say "hey. peppernint oil. on my sensative spots. now!" It hurts. Even someone who likes pain has to be in the mood for a certain kind of intensity to want it for the sensation itself). It is about the aboslute chemistry and beauty and magic created during those minutes between the threat of using the oil through the generation of the reciepients emotions as they figure out what was actually used -anticipation, trust, acceptance and that whole gamut of enegies and emotions which aren't so easily named. Those things can transfrom the pain and fear of oil into something blissful (which is something that contains its own magic) or they can elevate fucking into something - beyond. But I'm thinking that maybe you have to be into bdsm in order to understand that or to get the benefits. And I don't think Ger is into that.
So Paula isn't actually planning any of this. Therefore everything BUT the masturbating part was skipped.
d) Paula knew Ger is too stubborn to apologize without arguing.
Re: Completely up to you. ;-)claws_n_stripesMarch 15 2006, 06:51:43 UTC
(Pablo was unquestionably correct.) I distinctly remember some ranting about zie, neologisms, not even being able to use neologisms by strict dictionary terms (like anyone uses anyword that way) and rotting steak. Now you called it "linguistic purity" which just trying to cover the fact that where the language is concerned you are a reactionary because languages in the pure, natural sense evolve and change.
A grammatically correct sentence containing horrid neologisms is still a grammatically correct sentence. This is where we get into matters of style-- a separate issue altogether. In any case, when I typed what I typed, I certainly didn't have you in mind, and-- lest this go unsaid one second longer than need be-- not only do I not think you're an asshat, but I also think you're the exact opposite of one. Don't know what it is for sure but I bet it's awesome and I apologize for unintentionally implying that you were anything but.
. . .too many options in that quiz. Suffice it to say that 1) you don't scare me, but you haven't given me a reason to be scared of you (and if you ever do, that'll probably end us speaking to each other); 2) you underestimate what risks I'm willing to take; and 3) I didn't know that peppermint oil actually hurt, as it's not ever been anywhere near my equipment. With that: c and d obviously, but possibly a.
Re: Completely up to you. ;-)akaiyumeMarch 16 2006, 05:29:43 UTC
Apology accepted and one returned if I misunderstood your intentions in mentioning the word "asshat." I personally don't see the difference between "style" and "grammatically correct" since I think of the later as just a type of style (instead of a thing or a rightness/wrongness in itself).
As for the rest:
1)the only people who should be afraid of me are those who have given me reason to act in such a way that would cause a sensible person to be afraid. being called an "asshat" (even if it were more than implied) - not a reason
so I wasn't trying to scare you. and I'm kinda confused why that is even brought up.
2) maybe I will ask for a fuller explanation of this at sometime
3) I wouldn't say the feeling from peppermint oil is inherently painful. The sensation is sort of tingly icy-hot (at the same time). It is the intensity of said sensation that defines whether it feels painful or good or both at the same time to any particular person.
Know how when you eat something strongly minty or mentholy there is not just a taste, but also a sensation? Or how certain muscle rubs or breathing treatments tell you to keep away from certain areas? Well, menthol is a major natural component of mint. So if you take pepperment essential oil and apply a few drops undiluted to certain places....
Re: Completely up to you. ;-)claws_n_stripesMarch 16 2006, 06:47:24 UTC
I personally don't see the difference between "style" and "grammatically correct" since I think of the later as just a type of style (instead of a thing or a rightness/wrongness in itself).
DWV!
1)the only people who should be afraid of me are those who have given me reason to act in such a way that would cause a sensible person to be afraid. being called an "asshat" (even if it were more than implied) - not a reason
so I wasn't trying to scare you. and I'm kinda confused why that is even brought up.
2) maybe I will ask for a fuller explanation of this at sometime
It's quite simple, really.i) Absolutely nothing. No way in hell is Gerald ever going to take the chance like that his one and only penis. That's what I'm referring to when I say, "You don't scare me."
ALL that and you still didn't get it was a mock debate. Did you have to hock your sense of humour or are you just trying to bait me into using an icon I don't feel like today?
I thought I made it clear that I was talking only about the recorded version? That's the only performance I have access to in most cases (and definitely in the case we were discussing).
And I thought that I made it clear that the performance that makes it onto the recording is just another performance. Their is nothing more intrinsically correct or definitive about those lyrics.
Why for any reason should that one set of lyrics be transcribed from the recording and presented as "official" lyrics other than that Gerald wants it, even if Gerald isn't willing to do the work to get what he wants. Personally I think the closest thing any piece of art which is a performance (as opposed to print) can get to having a definitive version is what the creator wrote as a base to work from - whether they purposedly changed every freaking word in the piece or went word by word from the that base. At most, whether or not to release an official copy of the lyrics of the song as put on the cd should be a decison left to those who released it. If the band or label doesn't release any lyrics then maybe someone will transcribe them. Maybe not. But you have as much opportunity as anyone else to do so.
Don't start bitching when the universe doesn't cater to your whims. Who the fuck you think you are... me?;p
b) were asshats to begin with and need additional fun made of them.
Multiple choice quiz time:
Absolute given: akaiyume makes it a condition that if anything sexual is to happen in the future between her and Gerald, that it will involve Gerald being stripped, Gerald wearing a blindfold and lying still, hands behind his head as he hears the sound of a few bottles being opened followed by the smell peppermint filling the room. Continuing to lie still, Gerald delights in the the feel of akaiyume's hand slowly and massaging oil over the length and breadth of his cock, her breath catching as in anticaption...
Which of the following will most likely happen:
a) akaiyume will lick, suck and fuck
Gerald , the slippery but other wise inert lube enhancing the affects until many orgasms ensue all around and akaiyume graciously awards Gerald with 7 minutes post-sex cuddle time for his bravery in trusting her
b) akaiyume" then proceeds to actually rub peppermint oil all over Gerald's cock and swallow it whole because nothing sets off agony like a bit of pleasure before hand - and hey, that is exactly the kind of thing an asshat to begin with would do to someone who wasn't into really intense, hour or so long, but completely non-harmful pain
c)akaiyume will go masturbate because she is in a horny, sadistic mood and writing that got her kinda hot
d) options a and c
e) options b and c
e) Gerald will profusely apologize for the implication that akaiyume is "an asshat to begin with"
f) options e and a - as that will most likely result in the happiest ending for all involved.
g) obviously options f + c
i) Absolutely nothing. No way in hell is Gerald ever going to take the chance like that his one and only penis.
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'Tis teh intarweb, darlin'. It's not that I have no sense of humor; it's that our minds work differently, and we each would convey the same things differently when writing.
And I thought that I made it clear that the performance that makes it onto the recording is just another performance. Their is nothing more intrinsically correct or definitive about those lyrics.
You know, plenty (if not the vast overwhelming majority) of singers sing the exact same lyrics every time. That makes the lyrics "the lyrics" in those cases. How do you know the song/singer in question isn't one of those cases, given that neither of us has any evidence to the contrary?
Why for any reason should that one set of lyrics be transcribed from the recording and presented as "official" lyrics other than that Gerald wants it, even if Gerald isn't willing to do the work to get what he wants.
First: see above. Second: yanno, I have done exactly that, transcribed and posted, when the lyrics were clearly comprehensible. "Clearly comprehensible" and "James Brown" are not to each other what "peanut butter" is to "chocolate." Some of his vocals are clear, but that's a crapshoot.
e) Gerald will profusely apologize for the implication that akaiyume is "an asshat to begin with"
I'll do that if you can show me where I've ever corrected your grammar during a debate, especially if it was in a non-lighthearted manner (and I don't think that I've done even that much).
That said, g). :-D
--Gerald
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It's that our minds work differently
Well, everyone's mind works differently. But you..... maybe Pablo was correct.
ll do that if you can show me where I've ever corrected your grammar during a debate, especially if it was in a non-lighthearted manner (and I don't think that I've done even that much).
I distinctly remember some ranting about zie, neologisms, not even being able to use neologisms by strict dictionary terms (like anyone uses anyword that way) and rotting steak. Now you called it "linguistic purity" which just trying to cover the fact that where the language is concerned you are a reactionary because languages in the pure, natural sense evolve and change.
That said, g). :-D
Sorry you fail. That is not what my answer key has:
Now, class, do you think that is because (more than one may apply):
a) I reluctantly decided to skip the masturbating because menstural cramps were ruining the sexy feeling no matter how hot thoughts are making her.
b) Paula is the type of person who gets truly and deeply pissed by the mere implication that she is "an asshat to begin with" (intead of, oh say, a smart-assed bitch or something). Furthermore, she is sadistic and enjoys inflicting pain on people who don't like (like here includes also liking being in the posisiton where one sometimes takes things one doesn't actually like) said pain. As such, she really does want point and laugh at Ger as he fears his dick is burning off.
c) Peppermint oil roulette is only really fun if the actual risk and the acceptance of the risk is there. And somehow, Paula can't imagine Gerald agreeing to play peppermint oil roulette if he thinks the oil might be used. And in that case giving Gerald a reward for what he wants to do doesn't make sense. But neither would using the oil, because peppermint oil roulette is not about the punishment and/or pain (at least not in and of itself. and that shit hurts - I mean, very, very rarely do I of my own free choice say "hey. peppernint oil. on my sensative spots. now!" It hurts. Even someone who likes pain has to be in the mood for a certain kind of intensity to want it for the sensation itself). It is about the aboslute chemistry and beauty and magic created during those minutes between the threat of using the oil through the generation of the reciepients emotions as they figure out what was actually used -anticipation, trust, acceptance and that whole gamut of enegies and emotions which aren't so easily named. Those things can transfrom the pain and fear of oil into something blissful (which is something that contains its own magic) or they can elevate fucking into something - beyond. But I'm thinking that maybe you have to be into bdsm in order to understand that or to get the benefits. And I don't think Ger is into that.
So Paula isn't actually planning any of this. Therefore everything BUT the masturbating part was skipped.
d) Paula knew Ger is too stubborn to apologize without arguing.
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I distinctly remember some ranting about zie, neologisms, not even being able to use neologisms by strict dictionary terms (like anyone uses anyword that way) and rotting steak. Now you called it "linguistic purity" which just trying to cover the fact that where the language is concerned you are a reactionary because languages in the pure, natural sense evolve and change.
A grammatically correct sentence containing horrid neologisms is still a grammatically correct sentence. This is where we get into matters of style-- a separate issue altogether. In any case, when I typed what I typed, I certainly didn't have you in mind, and-- lest this go unsaid one second longer than need be-- not only do I not think you're an asshat, but I also think you're the exact opposite of one. Don't know what it is for sure but I bet it's awesome and I apologize for unintentionally implying that you were anything but.
. . .too many options in that quiz. Suffice it to say that 1) you don't scare me, but you haven't given me a reason to be scared of you (and if you ever do, that'll probably end us speaking to each other); 2) you underestimate what risks I'm willing to take; and 3) I didn't know that peppermint oil actually hurt, as it's not ever been anywhere near my equipment. With that: c and d obviously, but possibly a.
--Gerald
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As for the rest:
1)the only people who should be afraid of me are those who have given me reason to act in such a way that would cause a sensible person to be afraid. being called an "asshat" (even if it were more than implied) - not a reason
so I wasn't trying to scare you. and I'm kinda confused why that is even brought up.
2) maybe I will ask for a fuller explanation of this at sometime
3) I wouldn't say the feeling from peppermint oil is inherently painful. The sensation is sort of tingly icy-hot (at the same time). It is the intensity of said sensation that defines whether it feels painful or good or both at the same time to any particular person.
Know how when you eat something strongly minty or mentholy there is not just a taste, but also a sensation? Or how certain muscle rubs or breathing treatments tell you to keep away from certain areas? Well, menthol is a major natural component of mint. So if you take pepperment essential oil and apply a few drops undiluted to certain places....
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DWV!
1)the only people who should be afraid of me are those who have given me reason to act in such a way that would cause a sensible person to be afraid. being called an "asshat" (even if it were more than implied) - not a reason
so I wasn't trying to scare you. and I'm kinda confused why that is even brought up.
2) maybe I will ask for a fuller explanation of this at sometime
It's quite simple, really.i) Absolutely nothing. No way in hell is Gerald ever going to take the chance like that his one and only penis.
That's what I'm referring to when I say, "You don't scare me."
--Gerald
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I had placed "i" as the second most likely answer to the original quiz.
The correct answer to the original quiz was "c"
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