The Subtext I See - Heaven and Earth

[aingeal8c]

I love this episode. Hamlet reference FTW! It's also oozing subtext. Which is nice.

Heaven and Earth

Fraser feels the need to confess to Ray about Francesca’s appearance in his apartment at the end of The Deal.

They’re walking closely together in the corridor.

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[aingeal8c]

The line was so heavy with innuendo that I couldn't refrain from interpreting it that way. Either I was watching it with slash-colored glasses or Benny is just denser than a rock. I tend toward the second option.

I tend more toward the latter too really.

I always assumed that Frannie didn't get a chance to sleep with Benny. For one, Fraser was banged up enough that I don't think even he could've gotten himself up for Frannie's advances. For two, Fraser doesn't strike me as the type of person who does one night stands, and if he made a mistake, I think he might try to make an honest woman out of Frannie. For three, I'm not sure Fraser's capable of getting it up for any other woman other than Victoria at this time. We know he's a bit of a single minded doofus when it comes to loving, so I doubt he was interested in anyone else because he was so convinced he's in love with Victoria.

I have to say I find slashfic set just after The Deal (after Francesca has left etc) where Fraser and Ray engage in full anal sex a tad unrealistic given how hurt Fraser's ribs are. I don't think he'd be up to much at all. He's clearly in pain.

And I would agree I think it just wouldn't work for him he's more scared than aroused. And it does the beg the question can he get it up for nay woman other than Victoria at all? Is the fact he's so convinced he's in love with her the reason the sexual desire follows?

And I think Francesca herself practically admits she didn't - Would it matter to you if I did? She doesn't say had she says did as in the future she wants to but hasn't yet. Of course now rethinking that it;s highly possible she meant I did...ack.

I do think that Frannie is also referring to Ray lacking confidence in himself to reach for big goals, like climbing up higher in the ranks or chasing down a woman he loved. Because we know while Ray is a flirt, he also tends to let the people he love go rather than tie them down, again, due to his lack of confidence in himself. Of course, it's just too easy to believe she's referring to Fraser, because Fraser is the one who they've been talking about the entire time. And of course, when it comes to Fraser, Ray does lack confidence when Fraser is the one who seems to be making all the connections or noticing absurd details. When Ray mentioned Fraser as "guys like him", one gotta wonder if Ray doesn't think Fraser is too good for himself.

That's a good point Ray does lack self confidence in himself and his abilitiies. It's odd but it's Ray who recognises mroe abut the relationship he has with Fraser than Fraser does. Strange that ina way. But yes considering Fraser has been the focus of the conversation it's easy to assume it's him. Frannie has seen Ray not follow through on things all his life. I do think the 'am I good enough for him?' part enters into it too. Ray is almost saying Francesca isn't good enough either.

Fraser does eavesdrop if he thinks it's in the name of truth, justice, and maintaining the right. But, for Fraser to eaves drop on Ray, which is quite deliberate as you've amply proved, seems to go against everything that Fraser was brought up to believe. I want to know what drove Fraser to do something like that, and to cover it up and keep silent about it when he couldn't on the issue of Francesca. How does his conscience deal with accepting eavesdropping but not accidental seduction? I always wondered what Ray would do if he'd caught Fraser listening in, especially since we know that Ray's pretty big on privacy.

Indeed that sort of eavesdropping does seem completely against Fraser's moral code. Yet he doesn;t seem to have any trouble not mentioning it to Ray or Francesca. It's almost OOC for Fraser to be doing that. I would love to know the reason and Ray's reaction. Would he be upset? Relieved it was out in the open? That would make for a very interesting scene indeed.