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guede_mazaka June 13 2008, 00:14:37 UTC
Chivu = puppy, remember? The lack of tongue-control makes perfect sense.

I was kind of skeptical at first that Mutu would let everything hang out, given how family-friendly he's become. And I've been proven half-right, and I'm totally okay with the half-wrong part. But dude, that tattoo on his right calf? Looks a little bit like a toy soldier, or something equally dorktastic.

Don't MOCK THIERRY. He can still be awesome. He's just missing the lack of short babies to mother (aka half of Arsenal, Bojan Krkic). All those French youngsters, no matter how cute they look, are about 105 in cynicism, seriously.

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bustedflush June 13 2008, 00:24:39 UTC
*smacks forehead* Of course! My expectations were so off.

The grin is so much better now, and I sort of love that his little "fuck you, tabloids" trick totally got turned back on him. (I know, I know. I was hopingt that by not mentioning it I'd keep people from noticing. *sigh* It sort of looked like a heart with a knife through it to me, AKA the second-most clichéd tattoo, behind "MOM.")

I'm not mocking Titi, I promise! Really, I'm mostly mocking myself to paying attention only to Captain Paddy. I am, however, oddly proud of him for hanging out with the kids -- he's totally confusing my assumption that he's a grumpy bastard. (Is Nasri cynical? That makes me feel better, b/c in every training picture he looks like someone's kid brother, sort of hanging back and hoping they ask him to play.)

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guede_mazaka June 13 2008, 00:33:11 UTC
I sort of love that his little "fuck you, tabloids" trick totally got turned back on him

Honestly, Adi. You are not a scheming bastard like CRon and so you suck at media manipulation. Stop trying. (At least that's not unintentionally(?) ironic like the sun on Vieri:P)

Nasri actually seems well-adjusted. But he's been in Ligue 1 for long enough, he has to have seen far too much shit to really be as innocent as he looks. Aren't you into Nice now? Have you not noticed the fucked-up-ness of Ligue 1 politicking?. Plus I understand Marseille kind of is like the Detroit of France, all ghetto-tough and slangy.

ETA: Oh, and I forgot to mention. The Mellberg picture. IS SEXY. The little grin lurking at one corner of his mouth, the slightly inclined head, the waves of Viking testosterone. Um. Yeah.

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bustedflush June 13 2008, 00:51:43 UTC
I find it a bit reassuring that he's such a failure at scheming, actually -- maybe he's less intense and calculating than I think.

I am into Nice but my sense of Ligue 1 as a whole is still pretty stunted. Apart from the fact that everyone good goes to Lyon, they're all on the national team, and apparently the Nice president is a disaster, I don't know much -- can you give me an example or four of the fuckedupness?

[Oh god, I totally agree. He's incredible, though I'm not sure even the presence Mellberg is enough to convince me to watch Juve, esp with Nedved still there.)

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guede_mazaka June 13 2008, 01:01:53 UTC
Well, what I'm most familiar with is the continuous Monaco tragedy. They're owned by the Prince of Monaco and surrounded by rich people with cash to throw away, but they were so short of money that after they reached the CL Final in 2004 (and got beaten by Mourinho's Porto), they asked Giuly, their captain, to take a pay cut. Seriously. He (and the rest of that wonderful squad) wanted to stay but financial reasons were largely why he went to Barcelona.

But the rest seem to be just as stuffed with tactless crazy men as La Liga is, only Ligue 1's not big enough for media outside of France to really carry the stories (teaser). But the Guardian's Ben Lyttleton writes a regular Ligue 1 column that makes for some hair-raising reading.

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bustedflush June 13 2008, 01:18:09 UTC
Thanks for the link, I'll get the feed of his column. Do you think those things set Ligue 1 apart from other leagues, or just make them equally fucked up, with less attention? I mean, Leeds weren't Monaco, but they were in the CL semi just a few years ago and now where are they, a level or two below the championship? Talk about falling from the heights! And it usually takes the Italian clubs longer to collapse, but Napoli and Torino are both legendary clubs that ended up having to scrap it and start over entirely. (I realize Monaco -- who are Nice's big rivals -- aren't the only example of Ligue 1 messes, but they've got me thinking.)

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guede_mazaka June 13 2008, 01:43:49 UTC
Do you think those things set Ligue 1 apart from other leagues, or just make them equally fucked up, with less attention?

Mostly the latter (actually, the French FA is rather progressive-minded and not so cowardly as the other leagues; they've actually docked points from clubs for racist supporters). What makes Ligue 1 stand out is how incredibly upfront the French are with their insults. Like, what a Spanish chairman would say to some dinner party that later gets out to the tabloids and embarrasses him? A French chairman would just say straight out to the press. The managers, too. check out this one for an example. It's Mourinho-level sarcasm, only without the secret wink and the sense of humor. These are bitter, angry, vengeful men with long memories, it seems.

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tall_tree June 13 2008, 03:59:44 UTC
Is viking fever catching? *fans away his viking pheromones* No! I thought you were immune!

Olof! You rampaging viking! Pillaging your way into people's libidos! *fist of anger*

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xbrat_princessx June 13 2008, 13:32:10 UTC
Chivu = puppy, remember? The lack of tongue-control makes perfect sense.

Oh god... Now I see Puppy!Chivu running around the pitch, all excited, and wagging his... errr, tail.

Thank you for a wonderful mental image.

I think I'm scarred for life. *shudders*

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guede_mazaka June 13 2008, 13:58:20 UTC
Um, you're welcome? I think it's the doofy look in the eyes that clinches the puppy image for me.

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