See, I knew I shouldn't have turned the computer off when I did last night, 'cause about ten minutes later the sides for 4x08 were posted. :-) Got to read them this morning...
I think the scenes we're not seeing are the ones that'll make the episode - the insanity of townspeople, probably.
I wonder how this affect/reflect in the boys dinamics. If they had found this coin earlier, Sam would have used it to try and save Dean, and damn the consequences.
I'm not a person given to a lot of meta, but anytime I see a situation in which a person (usually a man in sci-fi TV) uses magic or chemicals or an ancient device to make a woman fall in love with him/sleep with him, it smacks of rape to me. It's just magical roofies. In the SGA version (the Richard Kind ep where he takes an herb that makes him attractive) and the previous SPN one (where what's-his-name uses his mind control) the writers don't seem to deal with the rape aspect at all. I think this episode will make me more than a little uncomfortable.
uses magic or chemicals or an ancient device to make a woman fall in love with him/sleep with him, it smacks of rape to me. It's just magical roofies
That's a really, really good point. She's basically doing something against her will and wouldn't have slept with Wes/fallen for him if not for chemicals controlling her.
This is why I think I'm going to have the same issue with Kristy (who I'm pretty sure is really Ruby) if she and Sam are having some kind of relationship, which has been hinted at. Because again, that's rape on Ruby's part, using this Kristy's body like that.
In my one lonely SPN story, I make mention of the fact that sex with the crossroads demon while she's inhabiting a maid's body certainly isn't consensual for the maid.
Having now seen the episode, I dunno if they're having sex or not. The writers were certainly implying it, but then the writers have been known to push us toward something purely as misdirection.
On another list someone suggested that this Kristy is actually Sam's lover (or partner or friend) and she lets Ruby borrow her body for short periods in order to communicate with Sam. I think that isn't likely or why what they pretend she was a one-night stand? But, I think it's a nifty premise that they could really do something with. Hell, Ruby could possess *Dean* in order to communicate with Sam.
Having now seen the episode, I dunno if they're having sex or not. The writers were certainly implying it, but then the writers have been known to push us toward something purely as misdirection.
True, true. And they may only have made it seem that way because they needed an excuse as to why she was in the room with Sam. PLEASE let it be that, or I will have a serious, serious problem this season. Because no, I don't think that Kristy is letting a demon borrow her body!
I was kinda hoping that it would be, like, childhood wishes coming true so we could get a body-swap episode (I've wanted one since season 1), where Sam blames himself for wanting to be like Dean when they were kids (because big bro was cool), and Dean blames hismelf for wanting to be like Sam (because he thinks that John loved Sam more).
And if the giant teddy bear is bloodthirsty, it will not be JTS (if that's not already an abbreviation, I'm officially making it one because I'm tired of typing that out so many times before the season's even freakin' aired!).
All I can say is, I REALLY want to see the boys arranging flowers!!!!
LOL! I'm sorry to say, but in these sides at least they're visiting Wes and Hope's house and just looking at pictures of how Hope would like her wedding to look. :-)
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I wonder how this affect/reflect in the boys dinamics. If they had found this coin earlier, Sam would have used it to try and save Dean, and damn the consequences.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree. Wes and Hope's story seemed rather tame.
If they had found this coin earlier, Sam would have used it to try and save Dean, and damn the consequences.
Wow, what an awesome thought! I wonder if perhaps this will come up in the episode. It would be fantastic if it did!
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Just my 2cents, Canadian.
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That's a really, really good point. She's basically doing something against her will and wouldn't have slept with Wes/fallen for him if not for chemicals controlling her.
This is why I think I'm going to have the same issue with Kristy (who I'm pretty sure is really Ruby) if she and Sam are having some kind of relationship, which has been hinted at. Because again, that's rape on Ruby's part, using this Kristy's body like that.
We may both be uncomfortable this season.
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Having now seen the episode, I dunno if they're having sex or not. The writers were certainly implying it, but then the writers have been known to push us toward something purely as misdirection.
On another list someone suggested that this Kristy is actually Sam's lover (or partner or friend) and she lets Ruby borrow her body for short periods in order to communicate with Sam. I think that isn't likely or why what they pretend she was a one-night stand? But, I think it's a nifty premise that they could really do something with. Hell, Ruby could possess *Dean* in order to communicate with Sam.
Consensual possession. Huh. Castiel does it.
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True, true. And they may only have made it seem that way because they needed an excuse as to why she was in the room with Sam. PLEASE let it be that, or I will have a serious, serious problem this season. Because no, I don't think that Kristy is letting a demon borrow her body!
Consensual possession. Huh. Castiel does it.
Or at least that what he says, eh?
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And if the giant teddy bear is bloodthirsty, it will not be JTS (if that's not already an abbreviation, I'm officially making it one because I'm tired of typing that out so many times before the season's even freakin' aired!).
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I want a body-swap one so bad I can't stand it!! My GOD, but Jensen and Jared would be awesome pretending to be each other's characters!
And if the giant teddy bear is bloodthirsty, it will not be JTS
I'd love it if it was bloodthirsty! I could totally get behind Dean blowing away and Evil Snuggle Bear. :-)
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The rest of it sounds all right, though. Reminds me a bit of the X-files episode where the Djinn wishes kept going awry for everyone...
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I'm so afraid of that! We can only hope it's some crazed, blood thirsty Evil Snuggle Bear that Dean gets to blow away. :-)
Reminds me a bit of the X-files episode where the Djinn wishes kept going awry for everyone
Oh god, I'd totally forgotten about that episode! Is that the one that ends with her being freed?
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LOL! I'm sorry to say, but in these sides at least they're visiting Wes and Hope's house and just looking at pictures of how Hope would like her wedding to look. :-)
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