Haven't posted some news in a while.

[afallenautumn]

Someone looking cause problems in Ohio's very important election?
http://www.cincypost.com/2004/10/18/absen101804.html

Even MORE election troubles.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/20/Pasco/College_freshman_part.shtml

I'm noticing some kind of trend here..
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04294/398767.stm

This is why southern politicians bother me
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[falsefashion]

someone looking to cause problems in Wisconsin? project vote?
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/sep04/262511.asp
http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2004/09/30/local/iq_3133196.txt

democrats allowing felons to vote in Ohio and Colorado?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49741-2004Oct20.html

Kerry claim victory before it's confirmed?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041021/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_day_after_strategy_12

This is why northern Politician's wives bother me!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/20041020/ap_on_el_pr/heinz_kerry_1&printer=1

Money Problems John? the economist of all economists and 367 others say so!
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_comment/carter200410131105.asp

Why are Democrats using the draft as a scare tactic? THEY AUTHORED IT!
THOSE WHO PUSHED FOR H.R 163 & S.89 LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REINSTATE THE DRAFT
1. Charles Rangel (D) NY
2. Ernest Hollings (D) SC

These were shot down 402-2, there will be no draft. Actually, since he talks about it so much, Maybe Kerry plans to reinstate the draft.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135639,00.html

402-2 against the draft = no draft

[goodbyehector]

i only have one comment on the draft bill. as Rangel had stated when he introduced it. he introduced the bill to get people thinking about the draft. such a bill is and was never intended to pass through the congress =p

[falsefashion]

Oh I know the intentions of Rangel, he even voted against it this time. This isn't the first time he's done it either ... it's actually not even a big deal. But my point is democrats have been using the draft as a scare tactic. President Bush has said repeatedly there will be no draft. Of course some will say you can't trust a politician. Ok, so lets look at the facts. The idea of reinstating the draft has continuously been from a Democrat, this past recruiting year ALL military branches have met or exceeded their recruiting goals, not the mention the US Navy having to give sailor early discharges because they had too many enlisted. Congress made it clear they won't support a draft when they shot this recent bill down 402-2. So it's clear they are using the draft idea to scare the uneducated who aren't aware of the points I just made. It's a cheap trick.

[goodbyehector]

yup. this is true. but both sides are using several different issues as scare tactics. so it doesnt surprise me. both sides prey on the uneducated and try to seduce them into thier circle. thats just how politics is played.

its actually rather effective.
after considering that bush has deceived and lied to the public before doesnt really make what he said about the draft more true. personally. i dont see a draft happening. i think it still might be possible, although i dont think such a thing is going to have the support of congress.

you have to look at it this way. the bill accomplished what it was supposed to do. it got people thinking about the draft again. which is important. both dems and reps should be thinking about the draft.

[falsefashion]

Lied to the public? What exactly are you referring to? If you mean the war well that's a false statement. How can you lie to the public when you were mislead yourself. British, Russian and our own intelligence told President Bush that Saddam has WMDs. The former CIA director said the case for Saddam having WMDs is a "slam dunk". This is the same intelligence John Kerry and John Edwards based their votes on. The 9/11 Report backs this up, so the whole lied to the American public is false. What the bigger issue is the failure of the CIA. Keep in mind John Kerry voted to cut CIA budgets by billions. So, honestly ... the whole Bush lied deal is out of date, proved wrong, and simply false.

But, like I pointed out ... i gave reasons why the draft won't happen because I know people won't hold much truth to a politician's word. Why would you draft when your military branches are meeting and exceeding it's recruiting goals? Why would you draft when a branch is giving people early discharges because they have too many enlisted? Then like you pointed out, Congress simply will not support a draft. Our military and warfare is too technology based. Ground troops aren't used in the same way they were say in vietnam. This whole draft thing is stupid and a cheap trick.

Yes, both the Right and the Left use cheap tactics. I won't deny that. But this is on a more serious issue which crosses the line. As for the bill accomplishing it's purpose, well I disagree ... this has been a bill for years and years, they do it every year. What it's being used for this time is a scare tactic that has absolutely no basis. There will be no draft, there is no need for a draft, and to keep listening to politicians repeat threats that the other will reinstate the draft is just ignorant.

[goodbyehector]

ill have to investigate your claims regarding the 911 report. i still havent got around to that. but i will take it into account.

ill leave it here for now until i get around to doing so.

[falsefashion]

fair enough, I would direct you to certain news sites ect. but with it being election year each political view has it's own influenced content so you wouldn't be getting the real deal on either side. I know a paperback copy of the 9/11 report is only like $7-10. There may be places to read it online, but I'm not aware of any myself.