Bartzabel's squall forces "Harpoon" schooner to port...
It's been more than a decade since this was posted, and a couple of recent film releases warrant immediate attention for anyone interested in debunking the CoS...
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/03/its-not-easy-being-scientology/388634/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_(2012_film)
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/01/how_much_scientology_is_really_in_the_master_revisiting_p_t_anderson%E2%80%99s_film_in_the_wake_of_going_clear/
Anybody have any questions they would like to ask someone who's been taking classes @ the Church of Scientology's "Flag Service Organization" for years?
Q: what about that dark period in the seventies, with all of the "fair game" practices
A: of course, they don't engage in that sort of thing anymore, they're all kinds o' ethical and reformed, now! ...these days, for their dirty work, they have the Office of Special Affairs, a KGB-like arm of the cult which uses any means to silence critics and to infiltrate legitimate groups to gain acceptance for or crush criticism of scientology.
Q: Do y'all get off on some kind of fetish wearing those pseudo-Naval uniforms the "Operating Thetans" get to wear @ "Sea Org"
A: well, duh... they keep you so busy that there's no time for real sex, and they even discourage having children (although I have known some amazing OT-Spawn in my days, in spite of their parents' choice in cults of brainwashing), so people have to find some outlet for their urges... And their cathartic outlets are rather unparalleled, from what I understand(although, this one time @ band camp...)
Q: do you really believe in &/or know many people who really believe in the OT materials literally (Xenu, past lives, killing with a thought, etc...)?
A: hey, those are trade secrets, how did you find out about that stuff?!!!
...q.v. Demystifying Scientology's Fundamental Reality -- The BT's
Q: Why can't Lisa McPherson ask any of these questions?
A: Because she's dead.
--
...The Church of Scientology is a rich and vengeful religious cult, or as one critic puts it, "a cross between the Moonies and the Mafia." But it would be a mistake to dismiss its underlying technology as harmless or ineffective. Scientologists know a great deal about thought control, social control, rhetorical judo (defeat by misdirection, deft use of logical fallacies) and high pressure sales, though as victims of their own technology, they wouldn't characterize it that way.
don't get me wrong, i think L. Ron deserves some real credit... i mean: first, he practically wrote the proverbial book on blackmailing hollywood; and then, the church managed to corner their market with all of those hard-won "intellectual property rights"
q.v. Scientology nd geeks in high school have : Lawyers, Spies and Lie Detectors ...What kind of "church" needs to use such things?
Operation Clambake: The Fight Against the CoS On the Net
Xenu-TV: Exposing Scientology's Fraud & Abuse Through Streaming RealVideo
and don't miss: Gerry Armstrong ...seriously funny, funny guy!
and for those in need of assistance in the fight against CoS, there's the Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) ®
--
Most Gross Danger: According to L. Ron, people who read OT III (or higher, certainly!) without being specially prepared for it will die from pneumonia and/or insomnia. You have been warned! (So if you read it and die, don't complain to us.) Ahem... if you're still really curious about the "sekrit skriptures," here they are!
and this Russian fellow, Thor Ablestar, has been valiantly ignoring demands from the CoS, who have asked him to remove from his website the .gifs of the first twenty pages of L. Ron's handwritten OT-III materials. Thor also brings us this amusing leaflet, "Who is Xenu?"
052207 @ 01:02:41 ADDENDUM: in fact, SouthPark even did a hilarious skit of the Xenu story: This is what Scientologists really believe!
but, i don't mean to sound like i'm baiting cultists... there are guidelines for productively interacting with cult members
--
ps
ever since my mother left the organization in the late seventies amidst threats of blackmail, their propaganda follows her everywhere she moves.
although she just ignores them at this point, so they don't consider her "fair game," they labelled her a "squirrel," ...squirreling means to alter the scientology/dianetics "technology" or applying it differently than intended.
--
pps
my ex-roommate, Theta (yes, that's his real name... his mother was "clear" the entire time she was pregnant with him, so she was able to birth a "Thetan") is a Thelemite who enjoys taunting Scientologists with the line "give us back the third boat!"
according to POT-TV, Crowley wrote to Karl Germer by cable on 22 May: "Suspect Ron playing confidence trick. Jack evidently weak fool. Obvious victim prowling swindlers." In a letter seven days later, Crowley wrote, "It seems to me on the information of our brethren in California that Parsons has got an illumination in which he has lost all his personal independence. From our brother's account he has given away both his girl and his money. Apparently it is the ordinary confidence trick."
about which, rotten.com had this to say, tongue-in-cheek: "Which was certainly true, of course. Except what Crowley didn't know -- and the feds still refuse to admit -- is that Hubbard had done it all for Uncle Sam. It is quite possible that without Ron's courageous undercover work, America would today be overrun by the forces of evil."
...when L. Ron (supposedly operating under orders from Naval Intelligence) took off with three of Jack Parsons' boats & Parsons' lover, Sara Elizabeth "Betty" Northrup, Parsons just wanted his boats back (Jack had already hooked up with his "Scarlet Woman," Marjorie Cameron, and had even previously divorced Betty's sister; but he still owed money on the boats)!
after Parsons invoked Bartzabel, the boat (*Diane*) carrying L. Ron & Betty was forced back to port by a sudden squall off the coast, which ripped off his sails... another boat (*Blue Water*) was recovered outright through litigatory means, while "Parsons allowed Ron and Sara to keep the third boat, *Harpoon* in return for a $2900 promissory note which covered his financial interest in the schooner."
q.v.
Bare-Faced Messiah: the True Story of L. Ron Hubbard
Jack Parsons & The Curious Origins of the American Space Program / Part 7: Sex and the Single Succubus
Sorcery And Science: An Explosive Combination
A number of excellent essays can be found @ FACTNET: Scientology, Satanism, & the Occult, including: Hubbard and the Occult, & Jeff Jacobsen, "The Hubbard is Bare," Chapter Seven: Aleister Crowley
Scientology and the Occult (from Citizens Against Corruption, dba Lermenet.com, "exposing the CON")
rotten > Library > Biographies > Religion > Cult leaders > L. Ron Hubbard
L. Ron Hubbard -- Messiah? Or Madman?
L. Ron Hubbard on Drugs: Narconon Files, with Pot-TV
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/03/its-not-easy-being-scientology/388634/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_(2012_film)
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/01/how_much_scientology_is_really_in_the_master_revisiting_p_t_anderson%E2%80%99s_film_in_the_wake_of_going_clear/
Anybody have any questions they would like to ask someone who's been taking classes @ the Church of Scientology's "Flag Service Organization" for years?
Q: what about that dark period in the seventies, with all of the "fair game" practices
A: of course, they don't engage in that sort of thing anymore, they're all kinds o' ethical and reformed, now! ...these days, for their dirty work, they have the Office of Special Affairs, a KGB-like arm of the cult which uses any means to silence critics and to infiltrate legitimate groups to gain acceptance for or crush criticism of scientology.
Q: Do y'all get off on some kind of fetish wearing those pseudo-Naval uniforms the "Operating Thetans" get to wear @ "Sea Org"
A: well, duh... they keep you so busy that there's no time for real sex, and they even discourage having children (although I have known some amazing OT-Spawn in my days, in spite of their parents' choice in cults of brainwashing), so people have to find some outlet for their urges... And their cathartic outlets are rather unparalleled, from what I understand(although, this one time @ band camp...)
Q: do you really believe in &/or know many people who really believe in the OT materials literally (Xenu, past lives, killing with a thought, etc...)?
A: hey, those are trade secrets, how did you find out about that stuff?!!!
...q.v. Demystifying Scientology's Fundamental Reality -- The BT's
Q: Why can't Lisa McPherson ask any of these questions?
A: Because she's dead.
--
...The Church of Scientology is a rich and vengeful religious cult, or as one critic puts it, "a cross between the Moonies and the Mafia." But it would be a mistake to dismiss its underlying technology as harmless or ineffective. Scientologists know a great deal about thought control, social control, rhetorical judo (defeat by misdirection, deft use of logical fallacies) and high pressure sales, though as victims of their own technology, they wouldn't characterize it that way.
don't get me wrong, i think L. Ron deserves some real credit... i mean: first, he practically wrote the proverbial book on blackmailing hollywood; and then, the church managed to corner their market with all of those hard-won "intellectual property rights"
q.v. Scientology nd geeks in high school have : Lawyers, Spies and Lie Detectors ...What kind of "church" needs to use such things?
Operation Clambake: The Fight Against the CoS On the Net
Xenu-TV: Exposing Scientology's Fraud & Abuse Through Streaming RealVideo
and don't miss: Gerry Armstrong ...seriously funny, funny guy!
and for those in need of assistance in the fight against CoS, there's the Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) ®
--
Most Gross Danger: According to L. Ron, people who read OT III (or higher, certainly!) without being specially prepared for it will die from pneumonia and/or insomnia. You have been warned! (So if you read it and die, don't complain to us.) Ahem... if you're still really curious about the "sekrit skriptures," here they are!
and this Russian fellow, Thor Ablestar, has been valiantly ignoring demands from the CoS, who have asked him to remove from his website the .gifs of the first twenty pages of L. Ron's handwritten OT-III materials. Thor also brings us this amusing leaflet, "Who is Xenu?"
052207 @ 01:02:41 ADDENDUM: in fact, SouthPark even did a hilarious skit of the Xenu story: This is what Scientologists really believe!
but, i don't mean to sound like i'm baiting cultists... there are guidelines for productively interacting with cult members
--
ps
ever since my mother left the organization in the late seventies amidst threats of blackmail, their propaganda follows her everywhere she moves.
although she just ignores them at this point, so they don't consider her "fair game," they labelled her a "squirrel," ...squirreling means to alter the scientology/dianetics "technology" or applying it differently than intended.
--
pps
my ex-roommate, Theta (yes, that's his real name... his mother was "clear" the entire time she was pregnant with him, so she was able to birth a "Thetan") is a Thelemite who enjoys taunting Scientologists with the line "give us back the third boat!"
according to POT-TV, Crowley wrote to Karl Germer by cable on 22 May: "Suspect Ron playing confidence trick. Jack evidently weak fool. Obvious victim prowling swindlers." In a letter seven days later, Crowley wrote, "It seems to me on the information of our brethren in California that Parsons has got an illumination in which he has lost all his personal independence. From our brother's account he has given away both his girl and his money. Apparently it is the ordinary confidence trick."
about which, rotten.com had this to say, tongue-in-cheek: "Which was certainly true, of course. Except what Crowley didn't know -- and the feds still refuse to admit -- is that Hubbard had done it all for Uncle Sam. It is quite possible that without Ron's courageous undercover work, America would today be overrun by the forces of evil."
...when L. Ron (supposedly operating under orders from Naval Intelligence) took off with three of Jack Parsons' boats & Parsons' lover, Sara Elizabeth "Betty" Northrup, Parsons just wanted his boats back (Jack had already hooked up with his "Scarlet Woman," Marjorie Cameron, and had even previously divorced Betty's sister; but he still owed money on the boats)!
after Parsons invoked Bartzabel, the boat (*Diane*) carrying L. Ron & Betty was forced back to port by a sudden squall off the coast, which ripped off his sails... another boat (*Blue Water*) was recovered outright through litigatory means, while "Parsons allowed Ron and Sara to keep the third boat, *Harpoon* in return for a $2900 promissory note which covered his financial interest in the schooner."
q.v.
Bare-Faced Messiah: the True Story of L. Ron Hubbard
Jack Parsons & The Curious Origins of the American Space Program / Part 7: Sex and the Single Succubus
Sorcery And Science: An Explosive Combination
A number of excellent essays can be found @ FACTNET: Scientology, Satanism, & the Occult, including: Hubbard and the Occult, & Jeff Jacobsen, "The Hubbard is Bare," Chapter Seven: Aleister Crowley
Scientology and the Occult (from Citizens Against Corruption, dba Lermenet.com, "exposing the CON")
rotten > Library > Biographies > Religion > Cult leaders > L. Ron Hubbard
L. Ron Hubbard -- Messiah? Or Madman?
L. Ron Hubbard on Drugs: Narconon Files, with Pot-TV