Did you ever find that there were moments in BSG, and with A/R in particular, that just didn't work for you (dying does not count, lol
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- The abortion ban, which I have ranted about endlessly, because it makes no logical sense at all for Laura, if she is the character they told us again and again that she was.
- Laura needing to be lectured about the importance of educating children by Tyrol, in Dirty Hands. Actually, a lot of that episode in general.
- Laura's special destiny vamooshing into the ether, and the opera house thing turning into a letdown.
- the regular comparing of Laura dying to Galactica falling apart - I, personally, found it a bit uncomfortable to have them treated almost as equals.
- some of Bill's breakdowns. Eddie's acting was just a bit OTT for my taste.
Opera house! YES. What a letdown that one was - it was like one writer tossed the ball and no one decided to catch it.
Laura and Galactica - this, too, as it edges on the notion of women being things that we see a lot in the media. I try to look at it more as Adama's greatest loves and only related to each other through him. Not sure it quite works, lol
One breakdown would have been powerful and affecting. I think it's important that we see men this vulnerable. But they TOTALLY overdid it!
Yeah, even that idea with them being Adama's greatest loves doesn't quite work for me, as it sort of indicates that their importance and worth was in their relationship to him rather than anything intrinsic to themselves. Some of that stuff towards the end did bother me a bit, probably because it tied in so much to Laura's obvious step back from power and from any real connection to fleet life, as well. I felt that some of the symbolism there took her a little too much into just being Bill's girlfriend for my tastes, after so long being such an independent, powerful, vibrant individual.
The paint scene was the one that took it over the edge for me, I think!
I felt that some of the symbolism there took her a little too much into just being Bill's girlfriend for my tastes, after so long being such an independent, powerful, vibrant individual.
I did appreciate this one show allowing a female in a position of power to choose a personal path, even if it was a mistake. It felt very human. I think the failure lies in not also showing how the loss of Roslin impacts the Fleet as a whole, the individuals who were more connected to her (not many, thanks writers), and Adama as its military leader. The personal loss is powerful, but shouldn't have stood alone. The writers' desire to show that uncommon people can have very common endings, that sacrifice can all be for nothing, was a mistake.
Cancer plot. *grumbles and shakes fist at RDM's poster* The first time around it was powerful and it actually added to her character, but the second time around it ruined everything *whispers*. I felt like they just gave her cancer so they wouldn't have to deal with her and it feels to me that they didn't know what to do with her in S4 in the first place. And it pains me so so much. She felt more like secondary character in S4 :(
And yes to #2. I could cry a full bucket over this. I remember how everyone raved about the opera house hair and clothes and all the theories about its meaning and then nothing. Laura gets cancer and trades her best suit for sweatpants and a hoodie. At least she already knew shortest way to gym.
YES. You know they didn't know what to do with a healthy Roslin when she was almost invisible in S3. Maybe letting her interact with more than just Adama would have helped?
Interaction with other characters is also a thing that makes me angry. Especially interactions with other females. I don't even need her to have bff forever and ever, but just some sort of interaction would have been wonderful.
THIS. So much this, and it makes me incredibly sad, because they ISOLATED her so much. She even lost Tory by the end of it, and I just. I can't even put into words how sad (and ANGRY) it just makes me.
Laura's magical cancer cure... seemed a bit contrived to me. I wish they had come up with a better solution to keep her on the show. Also, the dying leader thing, after they found Kobol, it just sort of vanished into thin air. And though Laura had found her own place of importance by then, I still feel like there should have been more significance to her role as the dying leader. And the Opera House visions... well...
You know, they seemed to bring it up again when they used 'the dying leader will know the truth of the opera house' or something like that, but they never paid it off. Too busy with Starbuck, I think :(
I think the same thing happened to Starbuck frankly. She became focused only on Sam (though I understand). It struck me that Laura and Starbuck weren't the sort of women that had female friends and the men in their lives served the friend purpose.
The miracle cure was a little much and Adama's multiple breakdowns were definitely overboard acting on Eddies part but I didn't really have an issue with how she stepped away from the job at the end. How much socializing you gonna do when you're dying and have no energy? My grandparents didn't do much in the end. I think the Galactica/Laura connection is an interesting perspective I hadn't considered but I don't think of it as a negative. Without the Galactica and without Laura they wouldn't have survived as long as they did.
At least Starbuck did see her destiny played out, even though the 'disappearing' felt a bit cheap. I do see what you mean about being all about Sam, though it did create an interesting (and ultimately tiresome) dynamic with Lee.
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- Laura needing to be lectured about the importance of educating children by Tyrol, in Dirty Hands. Actually, a lot of that episode in general.
- Laura's special destiny vamooshing into the ether, and the opera house thing turning into a letdown.
- the regular comparing of Laura dying to Galactica falling apart - I, personally, found it a bit uncomfortable to have them treated almost as equals.
- some of Bill's breakdowns. Eddie's acting was just a bit OTT for my taste.
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Laura and Galactica - this, too, as it edges on the notion of women being things that we see a lot in the media. I try to look at it more as Adama's greatest loves and only related to each other through him. Not sure it quite works, lol
One breakdown would have been powerful and affecting. I think it's important that we see men this vulnerable. But they TOTALLY overdid it!
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Yeah, even that idea with them being Adama's greatest loves doesn't quite work for me, as it sort of indicates that their importance and worth was in their relationship to him rather than anything intrinsic to themselves. Some of that stuff towards the end did bother me a bit, probably because it tied in so much to Laura's obvious step back from power and from any real connection to fleet life, as well. I felt that some of the symbolism there took her a little too much into just being Bill's girlfriend for my tastes, after so long being such an independent, powerful, vibrant individual.
The paint scene was the one that took it over the edge for me, I think!
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I did appreciate this one show allowing a female in a position of power to choose a personal path, even if it was a mistake. It felt very human. I think the failure lies in not also showing how the loss of Roslin impacts the Fleet as a whole, the individuals who were more connected to her (not many, thanks writers), and Adama as its military leader. The personal loss is powerful, but shouldn't have stood alone. The writers' desire to show that uncommon people can have very common endings, that sacrifice can all be for nothing, was a mistake.
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And yes to #2. I could cry a full bucket over this. I remember how everyone raved about the opera house hair and clothes and all the theories about its meaning and then nothing. Laura gets cancer and trades her best suit for sweatpants and a hoodie. At least she already knew shortest way to gym.
Well I guess this is why we have headcanons.
*shuts down computer and goes home to cry*
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*shakes fist and the Opera House*
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Also, the dying leader thing, after they found Kobol, it just sort of vanished into thin air. And though Laura had found her own place of importance by then, I still feel like there should have been more significance to her role as the dying leader.
And the Opera House visions... well...
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The miracle cure was a little much and Adama's multiple breakdowns were definitely overboard acting on Eddies part but I didn't really have an issue with how she stepped away from the job at the end. How much socializing you gonna do when you're dying and have no energy? My grandparents didn't do much in the end. I think the Galactica/Laura connection is an interesting perspective I hadn't considered but I don't think of it as a negative. Without the Galactica and without Laura they wouldn't have survived as long as they did.
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You're right about the socializing!
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