I think its well written, as for what its arguing or suggesting, i'm not entirely clear.
It seems to be that life is orderly and entirely logical, but the numbers are so big and so immeasurable its akin to a roullet wheel. Which of course is entirely predictable if you have all the data for it and a computer large enough to crunch all the numbers.
What I find a much more intresting implication is this. If life is entirely logical, then the essence of that logic is in each occurence having a set of causes.
Now, if each occurence has a set of logical causes, we can trace back through events, causes of those events, and causes of those causes, and it should all fit together and make sense.
The real mind boggling bit, is we should be able to extraporlate forwards as well. So, all you need to tell the future would be a computer big enough to crunch the numbers, and of course detailed enough numbers.
The last implication being that if we can tell the future through the laws of cause and effect, we really have no free will to act in a different way. Just causes and effects, stretching back to who knows where or when. Thats a different question entirely.
The last implication being that if we can tell the future through the laws of cause and effect, we really have no free will to act in a different way. Just causes and effects, stretching back to who knows where or when. Thats a different question entirely.
we actually discussed fate in this community a while back. or free will. something like that. a couple of interesting things were brought up there, as well
but one thing you'd have to consider when predicting the future is that in order to determine every single cause, you would have to be able to quantify every single bit of data, which takes into account literally an *infinite* number of variables, most of which we couldn't even fathom (for example, if alternate dimensions existed, we'd have to take those into account as well, but we very well couldn't if we didn't know for sure they existed)
so yeah, i follow the whole 'life is orderly' bit, but in reality, our minds could never, in an unelightened state, fathom that order.
you wouldn't necessarily need an infinite number of data types and variables. just enough to create a significant conclusion with. the trick to predicting the future (like economic analysts do) is to make sure you account for as many significant factors as possible. the less you leave out, the smaller the possibility of error in your prediction.
"The last implication being that if we can tell the future through the laws of cause and effect, we really have no free will to act in a different way. Just causes and effects, stretching back to who knows where or when. Thats a different question entirely."
that assumes that every theoretical action has a predictable pattern, that the consequence to every action has a known reason. this would mean that nothing whatsoever is random at all. absolutely nothing could be chaotic/random in any way, shape, or form. but yes, if every action has a known reason for causing a reaction, then you could theoretically map out the future. this is all COMPLETELY and utterly theoretical though, just to be a reminder.
I think its well written, as for what its arguing or suggesting, i'm not entirely clear.
It seems to be that life is orderly and entirely logical, but the numbers are so big and so immeasurable its akin to a roullet wheel. Which of course is entirely predictable if you have all the data for it and a computer large enough to crunch all the numbers.
What I find a much more intresting implication is this. If life is entirely logical, then the essence of that logic is in each occurence having a set of causes.
Now, if each occurence has a set of logical causes, we can trace back through events, causes of those events, and causes of those causes, and it should all fit together and make sense.
The real mind boggling bit, is we should be able to extraporlate forwards as well. So, all you need to tell the future would be a computer big enough to crunch the numbers, and of course detailed enough numbers.
The last implication being that if we can tell the future through the laws of cause and effect, we really have no free will to act in a different way. Just causes and effects, stretching back to who knows where or when. Thats a different question entirely.
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we actually discussed fate in this community a while back. or free will. something like that. a couple of interesting things were brought up there, as well
but one thing you'd have to consider when predicting the future is that in order to determine every single cause, you would have to be able to quantify every single bit of data, which takes into account literally an *infinite* number of variables, most of which we couldn't even fathom (for example, if alternate dimensions existed, we'd have to take those into account as well, but we very well couldn't if we didn't know for sure they existed)
so yeah, i follow the whole 'life is orderly' bit, but in reality, our minds could never, in an unelightened state, fathom that order.
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the trick to predicting the future (like economic analysts do) is to make sure you account for as many significant factors as possible. the less you leave out, the smaller the possibility of error in your prediction.
"The last implication being that if we can tell the future through the laws of cause and effect, we really have no free will to act in a different way. Just causes and effects, stretching back to who knows where or when. Thats a different question entirely."
that assumes that every theoretical action has a predictable pattern, that the consequence to every action has a known reason. this would mean that nothing whatsoever is random at all. absolutely nothing could be chaotic/random in any way, shape, or form. but yes, if every action has a known reason for causing a reaction, then you could theoretically map out the future. this is all COMPLETELY and utterly theoretical though, just to be a reminder.
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