New Comics: The Rogues hold court in Scott Snyder's Joker story, "Death of the Family" (SPOILERS)

[about_faces]

At the risk of invalidating my opinion right off the bat, I want to briefly discuss the use of the Bat-Rogues--especially Harvey--in Scott Snyder's current Joker event, Death of the Family.

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[napoleoncheese]

My best guess for situations like 'Heads I shoot you in the head, tails I shoot you in the butt' is assuming the decision to 'go bad' already has been taken with a previous coin toss, so all it's left to decide with the coin is the method of execution. That's also what I go for in 'Almost Got 'Im' and the scene where Harvey has Batman tied to the giant coin. By overpowering and tying a man Harvey knows is good and upholds the law to a giant instrument of likely death, Harvey already has been bad, so I pressume he's already made an offscreen coin toss. You don't put people into deathtraps in the first place without being 'evil', even if you haven't actually activated the trap yet.

Regarding Snyder- I don't like his writing. I don't like how hard he tries to be ULTRA MEGA DAAAAAAAARK, how he desperately tries to be the second coming of Grant Morrison, how he seems to think he's so clever by changing and retconning everything that falls into his hands. It baffles me how everyone loves him so much.

[lego_joker]

Regarding Snyder- I don't like his writing. I don't like how hard he tries to be ULTRA MEGA DAAAAAAAARK, how he desperately tries to be the second coming of Grant Morrison, how he seems to think he's so clever by changing and retconning everything that falls into his hands. It baffles me how everyone loves him so much.

Marry me. Now.

Jokes aside, I really do agree with all of this. Is there any part of the DCnU Bat-verse that you haven't found mediocre at best and massively disappointing at worst? Save for Lil' Gotham, I certainly haven't.

BTW, will we be seeing references to this in "Unequally"? I've just read the latest chapter of Thirty-One Clown Princesses, and God DAMN, that was hilarious.

[martin_l_gore]

Wow, "desperately tries to be the second coming of Grant Morrison", really? I couldn't agree less. Morrison is the king of the weird, esoteric, fucked up storytelling and concept over character, while Snyder is probably the most meat and potatoes-writer on Batman since... I don't know, Dixon? Completely different, almost opposite, writers in my opinion. If anything I'd say Snyder has a lot more similarities with Paul Dini, only exchanging a penchant for a certain kind of humor with one for gore-filled horror.

[about_faces]

From what I've read of Snyder's Batman work (which is everything up to Night of the Owls, plus some bits and pieces here and there afterward), I can agree that his writing isn't exactly like Morrison's. For one thing, he's better which characters and relationships, although as I've noted before, he's far more successful with heroes and than villains

[psychopathicus]

"No laughing matter anymore" - in short, "not the Joker anymore". Idiots.