New Comics: The Rogues hold court in Scott Snyder's Joker story, "Death of the Family" (SPOILERS)

[about_faces]

At the risk of invalidating my opinion right off the bat, I want to briefly discuss the use of the Bat-Rogues--especially Harvey--in Scott Snyder's current Joker event, Death of the Family.

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[barcavolio]

Oh, no, not more Almighty Joker! I get it, he's charismatic, he's fun, he's probably the most well-known villain, but why does he have to be the undisputed leader of all and rule all the rogues without any protest? A big part of why I like Batman and his rogues so much is because, by and large, they're just ordinary people, most with no real superpowers (people like Poison Ivy and Clayface, not so much, but a lot of them aren't supervillains, if you know what I mean). I always liked that; that Batman is first and foremost a detective that has a lot of cool gadgets, and his rogues are extremely intelligent people who rely on their gimmicks and weapons to fight him. I also like the more conventional heroes, with their superpowers, but the lack of this sort of hyped-up "let's see whose powers are the best and strongest, I can break buildings with my nose" battles in this universe made Batman very refreshing for me.

Also, why is Joker calling Batman the once and future (Bat-)king? Is Batman King Arthur?Also (part 2), Joker's

[about_faces]

Also, why is Joker calling Batman the once and future (Bat-)king? Is Batman King Arthur?

I just don't know. Maybe the full story will explain it better. From what little I've seen, it sounded like the Joker was speaking of Batman more like a god worthy of worship, but somewhere along the way it became all about Kings and whatnot. I imagine that this happened because Snyder was having the Joker play off the "Court of Owls" thing with his own "Court of Batman," which would lead to kingly themes, but... yeah, I'm not sure how much any of it holds water in the actual narrative.

Yeah, it's kind of the exact OPPOSITE of what Harvey should be representing, y'know? If that's what Two-Face really thought, then his costume would be all gray rather than black and white.

[psychopathicus]

It may just have been a random reference - he does, after all, do that a lot.
Interesting thought - what if Harvey wore a gray tie? Like, right side white, left side black, gray in the middle. Gray like a coin.

[barcavolio]

Just random? Boo, I was expecting Excalibur and Morgan Le Fay and epic shit. It might liven up the story!

I really like that idea! Harvey, you snazzy dresser. And grey in the middle because it... mediates between the two sides. Worst marriage counsellor ever, though.

[psychopathicus]

Picturing Harvey's two sides as a squabbling couple leads to some interesting mental images, all right.