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velkoria November 21 2009, 04:22:42 UTC
also, and sorry but I think it's just as 'selfish' to think that because *you* lost someone it means someone else can't show off their wedding dress for that date... and think that it's okay to... To me, as a Venezuelan who had someone they loved hurt on Sept. 11th think that the attitude you're showing in this post is no more selfish than her showing off her dress and pretty tiara because she wants to have a good thought assossiated with a day that is just a date... Sept. 11th is so much more than just a bunch of death obituary dates. It is sad, it was tragic, it is now done and we don't need it rubbed into us... and in 100 years I am sure people will still remember but the same we remember D-day or any other date where any country lost even more people. I know a few dates americans don't of a lot more deaths and they get married and have parties and you know what? that's FINE because it's a day... the memory lives on but we don't need to think 'omg ignorant! selfish!' just because we can'¡t let go a little of our own grief.

I am not trying to say you're a bad person or anything like that and I hope you on't take this as 'omg delete friend!' but if you do... hey that's your perrogative on your journal too... just thought I'd express my point of view on how you're reacting to something like I would with any other friend in real life.

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owen_amends November 21 2009, 07:53:38 UTC
and sorry but I think it's just as 'selfish' to think that because *you* lost someone it means someone else can't show off their wedding dress for that date...

Wow. I could not disagree with you more. I do not think she is being selfish whatsoever. As an American, 9/11 will always be a national day for remembering. There are three hundred plus days to marry, an American ought to pick one of them out of respect for their country.

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abnormal_apathy November 21 2009, 13:44:04 UTC
I don't take issue with people choosing the 11th as their wedding date. I take issue with people acting like I should treat it like any other day and "get over it."

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abnormal_apathy November 21 2009, 13:41:09 UTC
I'm not sure if you actually read the post or the comments that my post was stemming from, so I am going to assume you didn't. Pardon me if that is not the case.

First, the bride who made the original post wasn't getting married on the 11th, but on the 16th. My comments in the post weren't an attack on her at all. What infuriated me was someone who IS getting married on the 11th and who openly stated that she has gotten MANY WTF glances about choosing that date going on about how essentially the rest of us need to move on and get over it because it's her wedding day. Uhm, no. I don't take issue with her choosing that date. It's a weekend. It's practial. Probably they'll get venues for cheap since A LOT of people wouldn't choose that date. It's practical and I don't even take issue with the date at all.

What I take issue with is the insensitivity of some of the comments that were made. How 9/11 should just be like any other day. Like how long will it take for people to get over it because after all most people don't even worry about Pearl Harbor anymore. Statements like these are - regardless of where you're from or whether you lost someone - at the very least, disrespectful. And when someone points that out, like "Hey, it must be easy for you because you didn't lose someone on that day" to essentially be told to shut up and get over it, is to me, horrible.

I will not shut up. I will not sit back and be quiet about it. I will not feel shamed because of my loss. I did nothing wrong and neither did my uncle. I never said people shouldn't get married then. I never said people shouldn't be happy. I took issue with the attitude and tone of some of the commenters in that post.

I am not ragging on the OPs post with her photos. My statements about dresses and tiaras was a general attack on the community itself. Let's all live in our little wedding bubble where everything revolves around US because we are BRIDES and are ENTITLED to some kind of special treatment or tear in the space-time continuum that means that we can be rude, insensitive bitches. You never know who your audience will be in a community. Some of those statements are akin to racism in what you had previously believed to be a diverse community. Frankly, it shocked me that people think like that at all.

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